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Being Abom dont increase in strength I would give this fight to Juggernaut pretty easily probably.


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well abom is not to be underestimated, his strength at clasic level id pretty freaky, easily a few times greater than the 100 tonnes max, juggie is not invlnerable just incrediby durable, a story written showing abom give juggie a very hard time would not be hard to believe, and would be within both guys character parameters

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What is this classic level you keep going on about. Since whenhas he been depowered?


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Juggernaut wins, but it wouldn't be easy. If Abomination can give the Hulk a problem, then I don't see why Juggernaut wouldn't.


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classic abom was much strnger and more of a handful, more recently he has been beaten far too easily

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classic abom was much strnger and more of a handful, more recently he has been beaten far too easily


Just because he's getting beaten by enemies you dont think he should be that doesnt mean he's actually gotten weaker. Abomination has had his strength enhanced at times temporarily by beings such as Galaxy Master but thats it. Classic Abomination is the same strength level as current abomination. There is no classic abomination.


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er any marvel reader will tell u abom is nowhere near as formidable as he used to be, i mean he nearly killed hulk 1st time , over the years hulk has overpowered him in like a few squares of a comic

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er any marvel reader will tell u abom is nowhere near as formidable as he used to be, i mean he nearly killed hulk 1st time , over the years hulk has overpowered him in like a few squares of a comic



Id guess ive probably been reading comics longer than you sonny so i dont need to ask any other marvel reader about anything to do with abomination ok?

Abomination was one of hulks first major enemies so of course in the beginning he's ging to be written as a major threat. Just like in Titanias 1st bvattles with She hulk. Abomination getting whupped by hulk now easier than he did in the past says something about Hulks improved experience as a fighter since their initial encounter. Just because Ab is getting beaten easier doesnt mean he's been literally powered down in terms of his abilities. That is NOT the case. As such there is NO classic abomination. Hulk has just gotten bettre, just like she hulk has gotten better and now she can rock titania and does with ease all the time.


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I say that after a heated battle the Abomination beats the Juggernaut.


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I say that after a heated battle the Abomination beats the Juggernaut.


Abomination isnt as strong as juggernaut, ist as good a fighter and his durability is nowhere near juggernauts. Juggernaut would pound him.


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How much can the Abomination lift?


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How much can the Abomination lift?


He's class 100 he's not as strong as guys like hercules and thor, but stronger than guys like thing and namor. Even she hulks now stronger than abomination.


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Current Juggy will definately lose. Hes barely 80 cl. I havent heard of Abomination getting weaker. But Juggernout did tremendously.

Abomination wins 7/10


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look sonny, abom is majorly depowered now , just as juggie is, live with it, any marvel fan abe to read would say the same, hulk inevitably as a character would get stronger than anyone , i agree that includes abom, but when he was first used as hulks major musculer nemesis he was written to be far more powerful. remember hulk has been knocked out by nam,our b4, and cant beat him underwater even though namour barely touches 100 tonnes here, juggie is very durable but ( and no one knows how strong he is) abom has the potential to be written as a very tough cookie for any of the 100 tonne class to fight

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look sonny, abom is majorly depowered now , just as juggie is, live with it, any marvel fan abe to read would say the same, hulk inevitably as a character would get stronger than anyone , i agree that includes abom, but when he was first used as hulks major musculer nemesis he was written to be far more powerful. remember hulk has been knocked out by nam,our b4, and cant beat him underwater even though namour barely touches 100 tonnes here, juggie is very durable but ( and no one knows how strong he is) abom has the potential to be written as a very tough cookie for any of the 100 tonne class to fight

1st:
Abomination lifts 200 tons at max, his strenght barely increase if he's in fear for his life as stated from Modok.

2nd:
Juggernaut is actually a mid level Class 100 Strenght possessor, it means he's over the Abom's strength level, above Thing, above Colossus, but he's not durable as he was before, altough he still heal fast from injuries reported.

3rd:
You need to read before posts.Namor underwater becomes a mid level Class 100 strenght possessor, it means he can beat the Hulk with pure physical force like he did an be a dangerous opponent.

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i do but hulk when mad goes well above 100 tonnes my fair minded simpleton, on paper namour stands no chance in water or on a hot ar balloon, but is written drawing with hulk. abom is well over 200 tonnes, well was at the beginning, and is able as character mix it wll with any hero in the 100 tonne class, its just he is written to be beaten far to easily in recent times. we all know hulk can get too strong eventually for anyone, but abom used to be of a level that hulk founfd more difficult than he does now. juggie too should be severely tested by abom, who at full power would certainly test that enchantment more than the likes of thor lol

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i do but hulk when mad goes well above 100 tonnes my fair minded simpleton, on paper namour stands no chance in water or on a hot ar balloon, but is written drawing with hulk. abom is well over 200 tonnes, well was at the beginning, and is able as character mix it wll with any hero in the 100 tonne class, its just he is written to be beaten far to easily in recent times. we all know hulk can get too strong eventually for anyone, but abom used to be of a level that hulk founfd more difficult than he does now. juggie too should be severely tested by abom, who at full power would certainly test that enchantment more than the likes of thor lol


Incorrect im afraid. All who have said abomination can press over 200 tons are wrong. I think theres been a misunderstanding. The only time hes been able to do that is when he was enhanced by the galaxy master so that he could take out hulk. However after Ab failed GM took back the power.

Strength Level: The Abomination possesses vast superhuman strength, enabling him to lift (press) approximately 100 tons. He is not on the "Class 100" stength level since he cannot routinely lift (press) in excess of 100 tons.

Known Superhuman Powers: The Abomination possesses superhuman strength that surpasses that of the Hulk at the Hulk's normal "calm" functional level. But whereas the Hulk has a specially adapted adrenal gland whose secretions trigger the release of far greater amounts of physical strength than that of the Hulk's normal level to correspond to his heightened emotional states, the Abomination does not. Hence, the Abomination's strength does not fluctuate like the Hulk's.

The gamma radiation that mutated the Abomination's body fortified his cellular structure and added, from some as yet unknown source, over 800 pounds of bone marrow and tissue to his body. Unlike the Hulk's, the Abomination's transformation has proved stable: he cannot change back and forth between his human state and his superhuman state.

In addition to great strength, the Abomination's body possesses a high degree of resistance to injury, pain, and disease. The Abomination's skin is capable of withstanding great heat without blistering (up to 3,500 Fahrenheit), great cold without freezing (down to -175 Fahrenheit), and great impacts without injury (he can survive direct hits by field artillery cannon shells). It is possible to injure him, however: for example, the Abomination could not survive the detonation of a nuclear warhead from ten feet away. The Abomination's highly efficient physiology renders him immune to all terrestrial disease.

The Abomination can hold his breath for long periods whose limits have yet to be defined. Extreme pain or cold (beneath the limit mentioned above) or extended lack of oxygen can cause him to enter a coma-like state of suspended animation, in which he can survive, purhaps indenfinitely.

Like the Hulk, the Abomination can use his superhumanly strong leg muscles to leap great distance. The Abomination has been observed to cover 2 miles in a single bound.

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http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoop...y.php?entryID=1


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Abom...will put a good fight...but in the end...the Jugz wins this one..just because he is stronger and can take more punishment.


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Current Juggs ia a joke. Iceman is stronger than him.

With the extra mass that is. big grin

Abom wins.


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abom when created was twice as strong as hulk, he was created to be the counter muscle only he couldnt increase his strength, he was way more powerful than he is currently, and is well over twice hulks strength when just normal. juggie too cannot increase his strength, just has very high durability, abom would give juggie a hell of a good ruck

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