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Not true, He could of made the assumption that everyone knew that Thor was RKT so put him in here... He is in the fight, and from what i know if they dont specify other-wise its current. So stop spamming this thread about what you interperate from what the OP has said. stick out tongue but really, its RKT seeing as his dad hasnt miraculously come back to life.

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1) I read in the post you gave from Marvel Directory that Surfer has "NEAR-limitless" speed. Now "near" can have a wide range, but the word itself contradicts what you are saying that Surfer has completely limitless speed. So he doesn't have limitless speed. On top of that, this is not in space, the thread starter didn't specify so. Sufer can only achieve faster than light speeds in hyper space, so he wouldn't even be going faster than light in this fight.

2) Flash has, and often doesn go WAY past the speed of light ON EARTH. Flash has the major advantage in speed here considering the fight isn't in space.

JLA wins.

By the way Soujaboy, quit spamming this thread with garbage about how this is RKT. We realize that he is the current Thor, but if the thread starter intended it to be him, would've either:

a) Not put him in this fight at all
b) Would have specified clearly that this was RKT.

My post was from Marvel.com, not Marvel Directory.

Did the thread starter say they were on Earth?

Where did you read that Surfer can only exceed lightspeed in hyperspace?

Surfer usually does not go faster than Mach 10 on Earth. Does that mean that he can't? Surfer once traversed every cubic inch of the earth in a second. That's a lot faster than Mach 10, don't you think?

Near limitless, limitless, what's the difference? How can you be "near-limitless" anyway?

Speed is not an object to the Surfer. He can exist at every moment in time at once. Effectively, his speed is limitless. Wally can't compete with that. Surfer is everything he is and much more. Wally wouldn't be able to withstand on attack from Surfer. If you think Flash can beat Surfer, no offense, but you need your screws tightened.

JLA goes down.

If RKT is current Thor, this is RKT.

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Originally posted by batdude123
1) I read in the post you gave from Marvel Directory that Surfer has "NEAR-limitless" speed. Now "near" can have a wide range, but the word itself contradicts what you are saying that Surfer has completely limitless speed. So he doesn't have limitless speed. On top of that, this is not in space, the thread starter didn't specify so. Sufer can only achieve faster than light speeds in hyper space, so he wouldn't even be going faster than light in this fight.

2) Flash has, and often doesn go WAY past the speed of light ON EARTH. Flash has the major advantage in speed here considering the fight isn't in space.

JLA wins.

By the way Soujaboy, quit spamming this thread with garbage about how this is RKT. We realize that he is the current Thor, but if the thread starter intended it to be him, would've either:

a) Not put him in this fight at all
b) Would have specified clearly that this was RKT.


No, as it clearly states in the rules I posted if the thread starter doesn't specify which version of the character we use, we take the current version. As you and I both know the current version of Thor is RTK.

Thor with the wisdom of the runes knows and See's all, so he knows what Flash is going to do before Flash can even do it. Thus the JLA lose wink


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Flash can only exceed lightspeed in the Speedforce dimension. stick out tongue

Thor can fly faster than that w/ his hammer.

Surfer has gone billions of times faster than light in real space.

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No, as it clearly states in the rules I posted if the thread starter doesn't specify which version of the character we use, we take the current version. As you and I both know the current version of Thor is RTK.

Thor with the wisdom of the runes knows and See's all, so he knows what Flash is going to do before Flash can even do it. Thus the JLA lose wink
With the power cosmic, he'll have picosecond superspeed to add to that, and about a billion times his normal strength.

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"Wally West has said more than once that Barry Allen was the Flash most experienced with time travel. However, Wally has been shown to have a connection to the Speed Force, an extradimensional energy source, which provides his powers and gives him several other abilities. While all speedsters are powered by the force, West mainlines the power from the force itself and cannot be cut off from the source, unlike the others. Wally has on several occasions sped faster than light and been pulled into and exited the speed force by his own volition. He can create his costume out of pure speed energy, and can either impart his high velocities to other people and objects already in motion or steal the velocity they possess. Jay Garrick also possesses this ability to some degree; he stole speed from Black Adam in order to defeat the villainous Johnny Sorrow, and he has threatened to steal Bart Allen's (formerly Impulse, currently the new Kid Flash) speed on at least one occasion when he was misbehaving. West can vibrate through objects; in the past, West would cause whatever he vibrated through to explode, but has recently shown this to be a controlled ability as he can pass through objects without any ensuing explosion. Although not nearly as precise as Allen when he used his cosmic treadmill, West has shown to be able to traverse time and dimensions with his own powers, like Allen in Showcase #4 in 1956. However, Wally now accelerates to the point that he is skirting the very edge of the Speed Force dimension, and can traverse along the timestream to specific points as they become visible, much like watching a movie in fast forward or reverse (however he must have a particular speedster's vibratory signature to search for and lock onto, or be very familiar with the vibration of that time period)."

Wally either goes back in time and makes sure that SS's parents and Thor's parents never consumated, thus they die. Or he steals both their speeds and they can't move.

Now, since this is Rune King Thor, the JLA lose but only because of him.


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Thor and SS take this 10/10 with there eyes closed...wait, Thor no longer has eyes. cool


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"Wally West has said more than once that Barry Allen was the Flash most experienced with time travel. However, Wally has been shown to have a connection to the Speed Force, an extradimensional energy source, which provides his powers and gives him several other abilities. While all speedsters are powered by the force, West mainlines the power from the force itself and cannot be cut off from the source, unlike the others. Wally has on several occasions sped faster than light and been pulled into and exited the speed force by his own volition. He can create his costume out of pure speed energy, and can either impart his high velocities to other people and objects already in motion or steal the velocity they possess. Jay Garrick also possesses this ability to some degree; he stole speed from Black Adam in order to defeat the villainous Johnny Sorrow, and he has threatened to steal Bart Allen's (formerly Impulse, currently the new Kid Flash) speed on at least one occasion when he was misbehaving. West can vibrate through objects; in the past, West would cause whatever he vibrated through to explode, but has recently shown this to be a controlled ability as he can pass through objects without any ensuing explosion. Although not nearly as precise as Allen when he used his cosmic treadmill, West has shown to be able to traverse time and dimensions with his own powers, like Allen in Showcase #4 in 1956. However, Wally now accelerates to the point that he is skirting the very edge of the Speed Force dimension, and can traverse along the timestream to specific points as they become visible, much like watching a movie in fast forward or reverse (however he must have a particular speedster's vibratory signature to search for and lock onto, or be very familiar with the vibration of that time period)."

Wally either goes back in time and makes sure that SS's parents and Thor's parents never consumated, thus they die. Or he steals both their speeds and they can't move.

Now, since this is Rune King Thor, the JLA lose but only because of him.


Surfer is already there waiting when Wally time travels, and once he arrives, Surfer pimpslaps him to the ground.

Surfer gives Wally some speed. Then he blasts his face off.

Wally ain't beating Surfer. Anything he can do, Surfer does better, and more.

Surfer owns Wally, Supes, Wondie, Bats, and MM. His only competition is Hal.

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Make this Superman Prime and SS and RKT are f*cked. big grin Happy Dance


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Besides that Thor(RtK) could just freeze Flash in time like he did Mangog. While flash stands there helpless Thor can kill the rest of his team right before his eyes.

All while Silver Surfer takes a bath


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Surfer could just pluck Wally on the forehead and kill him. Wally is no comp for Surfer. He isn't faster than him, and he's nowhere near as powerful.

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Besides that Thor(RtK) could just freeze Flash in time like he did Mangog. While flash stands there helpless Thor can kill the rest of his team right before his eyes.

All while Silver Surfer takes a bath


We all realize that RKT would take this, but if you replace Superman with Superman prime, Silver Surfer and RKT would be f*cked.


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Make this Superman Prime and SS and RKT are f*cked. big grin Happy Dance


You must not know who RTK is? His power even Dwarfs that of Odins. He singlehandedly was able to outsmart and ultimately defeat the gods of gods.


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Make this Superman Prime and SS and RKT are f*cked. big grin Happy Dance

RTK and Superman Prime is a good fight.

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Surfer is already there waiting when Wally time travels, and once he arrives, Surfer pimpslaps him to the ground.

Surfer gives Wally some speed. Then he blasts his face off.

Wally ain't beating Surfer. Anything he can do, Surfer does better, and more.

Surfer owns Wally, Supes, Wondie, Bats, and MM. His only competition is Hal.


I wasn't suggesting at all that Wally could beat SS. no I was suggesting that if anything, Wally would provide a couple second distraction and that's all Kyle and Hal would need to make a power cosmic dampener or something. However, this is RKT so SS and Thor win.


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Besides that Thor(RtK) could just freeze Flash in time like he did Mangog. While flash stands there helpless Thor can kill the rest of his team right before his eyes.

All while Silver Surfer takes a bath

eek!

Thor can stop time again? Sweet.

Surfer can control time too.

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You must not know who RTK is? His power even Dwarfs that of Odins. He singlehandedly was able to outsmart and ultimately defeat the gods of gods.


Yeah and? Superman Prime is basically on that level as well.


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RTK and Superman Prime is a good fight.


Yes it is. yes


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I wasn't suggesting at all that Wally could beat SS. no I was suggesting that if anything, Wally would provide a couple second distraction and that's all Kyle and Hal would need to make a power cosmic dampener or something. However, this is RKT so SS and Thor win.


Ok. Still, Surfer can take Hal on and even beat him. Even if this was regular Thor, Surfer could give him the power cosmic, and the two of them could stomp Hal.

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Yeah and? Superman Prime is basically on that level as well.


We don't know what level Superman Prime is on. He looks hella powerful, though.

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