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do u know taht super man if he flies at the speed of 1% of lightspeed, he will be travelling at 7 million miles n hour. as the fight starts, he circles the globe (at the equator the earth is about 21,600 miles) so he takes off. in 11 seconds (if they are fighting on the equator) mags starts drawing electromagnetic force to him in massive shield and prepares for the attack. of course, supes speed has also thrown off the EM forces on earth (mach 10 causes severe disturbances (mach 9090 will be catastrophic))
mags gathers his strength and they collide head on. now, the impact of supes PUNCHING mags at mach 9090 and mags hitting supes with the power he could muster will be nothing short of an extinction level event impact. mags will be disintegrated and the impact will knock supes into orbit where eh will remain unconscious for an hour or so.
everywhere in supes flight wake will be destroyed for 100 miles around and the impact zone will be akin to a multi megaton warhead explosion at ground zero.
supes wins
regardless, even if supes didnt do that, he reaction time is so much faster than magnetos that he can stomp him b4 mags realized he moved
If Mag's field isn't already up, then yes, Supes would crush him like a bug in a split second.
But if it's up, then Supes will have to think of something else.
I believe that heat vision will burn a hole right through Magneto.
His shield lets light through - otherwise we wouldn't be able to see him.
So shouldn't it let HV through to...? It's only light after all.
And there's no point in saying something along the lines of 'Mags can control EMP blah blah - he'll stop HV in it's tracks.' Because I doubt that he could react, between the time that the HV leaves Supes' eyes and passes through the back of Mag's skull lol.
As his HV moves at light speed, ie 186,000 miles per second, it'd bridge the gap far faster than Mags could react.
So how can he stop HV before it burns him? And if his shield auto-repels all lasers, why can we see him? Is it attuned to block out only certain intensities of light...?
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Northstar moves at 99% the speed of light and attacks with so much force that he was able to injure the Hulk. It did nothing to Magneto, who grabbed him out of midair like he was moving in slow motion. I'm not worried about Magneto being able to react to superspeed. But that entire scenario is unrealistic. Superman doesn't kill and he won't destroy the planet to beat Magneto. I could say that Magneto could create a singularity inside Superman that would cause Superman to collapse within himself...but that would be as silly as Superman destroying the earth to beat Magneto.
Likewise, Magneto's shield has instantly blocked light before. Dazzler sneak attacked Magneto and it was able to repel the light just fine. His shield has a stabilizing component that allows it to filter in certain things (like air) but block out other things (like radiation, heat vision, extreme weather conditions). That's why Magneto can operate in space and can survive escape velocity.
Magneto just has more tools that exploit Superman's weakness than the other way around. Superman's speed is a convenient way to get quick wins on this board, but it won't be of much use against someone like Magneto.
Magneto's main weakness is that he has to concentrate. Lets see him try concentrating on millions of iron molecules while superman is hitting him with full power heat vison. THe scan shows that while they can measure the temp of hearts of stars, they can't measure superman's heat vision. Its that hot. (please log in to view the image)
Even if magneto could find the time to try to rip out the iron, its proven that even his cells are indestructable as a shrunken superboy and eradicator couldn't punch through supes kryptonite poisoned tumors. (please log in to view the image)
And that's assuming mag's shield can take superman hitting him with a million punches per second that could each shatter mountains. And that's assuming he survives superman's orbital strike. (please log in to view the image)
And all of that still assumes superman simply doesnt speedblitz him into paste before magneto register that superman's costume is so much better than his pink suit and bucket.
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I cannot force myself through the rest of this thread. Idiocy pisses me off quite regularly.
Look: A magnet emits a field, which interacts with the properties of certain elements, creating attraction. These elements are usually metals due to metals free floating electron cloud. If you heat the magnet to high temperatures, the field will get weaker and weaker. However, if you heat the FIELD, but not the magnet, to high temperatures, it will act normally.
Magneto is NOT a magnet. He can control magnetic fields, it doesn't matter if he is trying to move around some iron in the belly of the sun, his fields aren't dampened any. A field will not gain nor lose strength due to heat.
Superman 10/10. Also how does Superman talk in space???
First Superman might not even have any iron in his blood and if he did I think it would be just as hard to pull something out of Superman's body as it is to put something in.
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You are completely correct. Magneto is not a magnet. Magneto is a flesh and blood human. This property of magneto does not bode well for him in a match against a kryptonian.
At that point? I don't care about the comics, I care about the science, the fact. And the fact is, heating a field will not degenerate it. I don't know about the Polaris fight, maybe Polaris just couldn't take the heat, not so much the field deteriorated? Maybe it said directly "Heat made the field deteriorate". But if it did, that is certainly plot induced stupidity, which is excluded from such fights.
*Clap his hands so hard the sound will turn Mags brains into Jelly.
*Supes can freeze a planet for fun. Encasing Mags in a few hundred tons of ice and then tossing him into the sun is no sweat for Supes.
*Suck all the air out of the area until Mags collapses from asphyxiation.
*Simply heat vision him until he cooks inside his field.
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I remember in reading a Uncanny issue where storm made a hurricane or something while Mags was in his shield and it sucked all of the air out of his shield and he almost passed out.
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BUT why is everyone thinking heat will severely affect Mags???
The sun itself has the strongest magnetosphere in our solar system and Magneto has been attacked by Sunpyre, Sunfire, Havoc, Magma etc. without suffering ANY negative effects to his forcefield or his control about magnetism.
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Magneto I think pulls this off, 7 out of 10 for him unless where talking about supermanGod that can break planets with his gas. Has anybody brought up the automatic shield defence yet for magento, I still think that's a pretty solid agument. However I can totaly see how people think supes is leagues above mags. I just think that in the showings I see of supes he goes down.
yeah storm did it one time because of PIS, I say PIS because mags can with stand the vacum of space and haveing energy beams on all side but he can't stand a tornato, he would just need to completely close off his field.
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