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No they did show him in Evolution, a two-part series where he threatened the world.

In the four-part 'Beyond Good and Evil' series, (which you're referring to), it's true that Apoc came close to realizing his dream, but you forget how vulnerable he still was. He got punked by Magneto, only to be saved by his Horsemen. All the 'power' exhibited had more to do with the power of the 'Axis of Time', (actually called 'Limbo'), than with Apocalypse. Basically anyone who controlled the Axis, controlled everything...not necessarily Apoc. Plus you're forgetting one key element in the whole scenario...Immortus (that annoying janitor), the true ruler of Limbo. He was clearly toying with everyone, just sitting back and watching. He could have turned the tables on Apocalypse any time he wanted to.

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yea, but he didnt, I'm just saying that, in my opinion, Apocalypse was Almighty in the 90's animated series.


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He didn't because the psychics already did the job for him.

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90s animated Apoc was almighty and STILL got shown up by Magneto. Yeah!


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Yeah Magneto was the man in TAS! Even I totally marked out for him.

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okay okay, how about the Apoc from the cartoon show. The one from the cartoon show i say could easily destroy Onslaught. He beat Magneto, Mystique, Cable, and the X-Men all at the same time and wouldve killed them all too if it wasnt for the 20+ psychics.


In TAS he destroyed X-Men in 1 second (all X-Men and Bishop).
He wasn't punked by Magneto (if you look close, he was thrown when he wasn't looking, when he was looking, and he was normal size and Magneto and Mystique were, she with her gun, Magneto by his power, were shooting at Apocalypse, he wasn't even moved and Magento full blast stand literally 2 second agaisnt Apocalypse blast), he wasn't hurt for 0.00001% (so don't talk about vulenrability, he wasn't hurt by 0,000001% and you know it, and he can fly, he would return, but damage was 0,0001% and by the end Apcoaylpse one blast wit relax would kill Magneto if Wolvie wouldn't save him and what Sinister said to Magneto after that, betraying Apocalypse is trully a fool game,) And it was the 20+ psychihc who were the most powerful psychihc in the universe, and even then Xavier said, only because Lazarus chamber was gone, he was gone and were able to beat him (otherway they wouldn,'t and even Stryfe was among those psychihc, that is true Apocalypse and power, someitme I even hate comic Apoclypse cause he is so weak comapred to cartoon), so don't comapre Magento, it's not worth to compare or mentioning him to cartoon Apocalypse, most pwoerful mutants, pscyhih in the whole universe need to defeat him, and only becasue Chamebr was gone, that tells you soemthing). Knowing comic and cartoon, there are fans and fans, many and many, who says tha only Apocalypse from cartoon lives up to his name, that ony cartoon Apocalypse desrves such name to carry, in terms of powers and everything (in cartoon he almsot erased whole existence). There was once big topic, about Apocalypse in TAS, there were hundreds and hundrets of post (Marvel fans, everyone), and it was more than 90% people who agreed that someone like Silver Surfer would be joke to Apocalypse from cartoon. And armandovalles, believ that 99% of people would say Apocalypse from TAS was far far and far above Magento (not worht menioning), except such as demigawd. Everyone who wathced knows that. And in Evolution Apocalypse defetead Magento in 1 second, so not worth mentionng in same sentence and no worth mentioning in in the same post.

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And the thread about Apocaylpse from TAS was ended up in enormous big thread for TAS Apocalypse, Apocalypse from TAS is too ridcously powerful and is better to stay out from that Apocalypse and to continue with comic Apocalypse where he was more reasonible and is better to stick to that Apocalypse (who is also original, altough many said TAS Apocalypse is right one who should ever be to carry that name, but is too one sided becasue he is just too powerful). Everyone agreed and it's been two years since that and no one wants to mention TAS Apocalypse from then.


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Originally posted by demigawd
90s animated Apoc was almighty and STILL got shown up by Magneto. Yeah!


In the X-men cartoon it was like this.

Gladiator > Apc > Jugs > Magneto > X-men

in evolution:

Apc >>>>>>>>>>> magneto , X-men


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in evolution was Apoc really that powerful? what were the episodes called that he was shown in?


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In the X-men cartoon it was like this.

Gladiator > Apc > Jugs > Magneto > X-men

in evolution:

Apc >>>>>>>>>>> magneto , X-men


In TAS, Apocalypse didn't even want to bother with Gladiator, Apocalypse would be clearly much too much for him. Rogue in the end was able to fight with Gladiator, with Apocalypse never (she was afraid of him, why she wasn't of Gladiator), she was killed in 1 second along with others. 20+ most pwoerful psyhich in the whole universe needed to defead Apocaylpse, and only beacuse of Lazarus chameb was gone, like Xavier said, and you know that Gladiator doens't macth close to such power. TAS Apocalypse was just too much as was Evolution Apocalypse.

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Apocalypse and Magneto fought on even terms in TAS. Magneto got the better of him twice, and the third encounter, Apocalyse had already acquired the power he was seeking. Even then, he didn't hurt Magneto. They were portrayed as equals in their encounters, with Magneto doing more damage.


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in evolution was Apoc really that powerful? what were the episodes called that he was shown in?


Hey give me your e-mail, I will send you his episode he was in Evolution. Almighty fan of Magneto, demigawd was shocked by Evolution Apocalypse, he himseld said that he was just too much. He even said that Evolution Apocalypse could beat comic Thanos, comic Mgaento and comic Apocalypse at the same time, and that was told by demigawd, so that should mean something.

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Apocalypse and Magneto fought on even terms in TAS. Magneto got the better of him twice, and the third encounter, Apocalyse had already acquired the power he was seeking. Even then, he didn't hurt Magneto. They were portrayed as equals in their encounters, with Magneto doing more damage.


Hey 20+ psyhic in the whole universe (Magneto mere of insect), believe me for once demigawd, I am so experiecn with TAS Apocalypse also in other forums, trhoug so many forums, where in thread where was 1000 post and where 90% agreed he is just too, ridcuodl powerul in TAS, it was said some like SS is joke agaistn TAS Apocalypse (they agred Onslaugh wouldn't be macth for TAS Apcoaylpse and there 90% of 1000 post whoagreed with that, so of course I will go wtih them than just you, look also kgkg agres Apocalypse>Magneto in TAS), I mean more than 500 of people there agreed, and you are only one, so of course I will go wiht 100 other than just you and I have been in too many thread about TAS Apocalypse (they were thinking logicly and was also awere Magneto blast lasted 1 second agaistn Apocalypse, he killed in 1 second all X-Men, and they didn't care about the fight, they care about pwoer leve and is it clear in TAS, Apocalypse was more than just too much, really not worth mentiont, look Apocalypse in the end almost kiled him, while Magneto dind't hurt him for 0,000001% in whole encoutner, and 20 most powerful pshi for Apcaoylse, Magento is leterlly not wort mentioning. And don't care about the fight, it's only worse beacuse MAnus dind't hurt hil a little, thou all TAS, Apocalypse power level was shown too much and Magneto is not worth menitnong.

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Yes I will send you in e-mail with YSI.

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Yeah, Evolution Apoc basically started out the way comic Apoc wanted to become in the 12 storyline. It's largely inspired by the 12 storyline, in fact. Evo Apoc was basically at Onslaught level.


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Yeah, Evolution Apoc basically started out the way comic Apoc wanted to become in the 12 storyline. It's largely inspired by the 12 storyline, in fact. Evo Apoc was basically at Onslaught level.


Probably above Onslaught level.

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Evolution characters were weak.

Except jugs, and Acp.

You saw what the sentinels did.

but capare to there comic couter part they are nothing(except apc).


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And Apoc's powers in Evo had absolutely NOTHING to do with his powers anywhere else. That could have been Darkseid or Thanos and no one would have been the wiser.


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Hey 20+ psyhic in the whole universe (Magneto mere of insect), believe me for once demigawd, I am so experiecn with TAS Apocalypse also in other forums, trhoug so many forums, where in thread where was 1000 post and where 90% agreed he is just too, ridcuodl powerul in TAS, it was said some like SS is joke agaistn TAS Apocalypse (they agred Onslaugh wouldn't be macth for TAS Apcoaylpse and there 90% of 1000 post whoagreed with that, so of course I will go wtih them than just you, look also kgkg agres Apocalypse>Magneto in TAS), I mean more than 500 of people there agreed, and you are only one, so of course I will go wiht 100 other than just you and I have been in too many thread about TAS Apocalypse (they were thinking logicly and was also awere Magneto blast lasted 1 second agaistn Apocalypse, he killed in 1 second all X-Men, and they didn't care about the fight, they care about pwoer leve and is it clear in TAS, Apocalypse was more than just too much, really not worth mentiont, look Apocalypse in the end almost kiled him, while Magneto dind't hurt him for 0,000001% in whole encoutner, and 20 most powerful pshi for Apcaoylse, Magento is leterlly not wort mentioning. And don't care about the fight, it's only worse beacuse MAnus dind't hurt hil a little, thou all TAS, Apocalypse power level was shown too much and Magneto is not worth menitnong.


Doesn't matter. Neither of them were hurt in their fights. Magneto was in fine shape afterwards, Apocalyse wasn't hurt either. The difference is, Apoc needed his horsemen to save him after Magneto tossed Apoc out the window. Magneto only retreated because all of Apoc's servants along with Apoc and Sinister ganged up on him.


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