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Jury
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Misunderstanding cleared. However, I too honor Mary. And never have I recieved an answer to the question "do you worship Mary?" With a "yes". And this is the CATHOLIC CHURCH I go to. Perhaps you are misunderstanding the quote from the bible. And let's get something straight. Never have I been "blinded" by tricks and slight of hand. God has always aluminated my path, "for through him do I gain strength." Maybe you should remove the beam in your eye, before pointing out the splinter in mine...

And your Catholic Church says you worship Mary through hyperdulia. If you do not recognize this, then you are not a true Catholic... and no use of defending your faith in this discussion.

Matthew 16:18, on the other hand, is not telling us that Peter is the Foundation Stone or the Rock of the Church which Christ has built; while your Catholic Church says it was Peter.

Yes. The Catholic Church was founded upon Peter - their Foundation Stone.

But the Church which Christ has built was founded upon the Rock or Foundation Stone, which is Christ Himself, according to the Bible.

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And your Catholic Church says you worship Mary through hyperdulia. If you do not recognize this, then you are not a true Catholic... and no use of defending your faith in this discussion.

Matthew 16:18, on the other hand, is not telling us that Peter is the Foundation Stone or the Rock of the Church which Christ has built; while your Catholic Church says it was Peter.

Yes. The Catholic Church was founded upon Peter - their Foundation Stone.

But the Church which Christ has built was founded upon the Rock or Foundation Stone, which is Christ Himself, according to the Bible.

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To whom all power comes from God, you point is? If i'm not a catholic because I don't believe in Hyperdulia, than you aren't a christian for arguing with a brother. Instead of questioning Atheist, and blasphemers, those who need to be saved, you waste your time quarelling with me. I believe and love God, but you cant stand for that. You must criticize, and point out the details, like the details are what get us through life. Perhaps you would like to stop NOW, and reconsider who and what your fighting to protect. Because we are aiming for the same goal. But because you are blinded and therefore think that Christains are the enemy, perhaps you need God to open your eyes and see that two men who fight against each other for the same cause. Are fighting the wrong enemy.


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This is the making of the Inquisition..wouldn't ya say?

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True Christian Brothers are those who are UNITED in Spirit, in Faith, in Doctrine, in Lord, in God, in Baptism, in Church. So, are we? And I am not quarelling with somebody else. smile

The true Christians must bear the Light and be like the stars that shine.

And the followers of Catholic Church are not UNITED in their Faith and Doctrine. And your Church officials, especially your Pope and Bishops, are IGNORANT of this fact. One Catholic may acknowledge Hyperdulia and one may not. Is it UNITY? No. What is the Church's action? Nothing.

When Christ told Peter: "Feed my lambs"... (meaning: take care of my followers and see to it that they conform to God's will)... Does your Pope do this to each and everyone of you?

In dreams, Prince.

smile In your dreams.


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*sighs*, I have left this town, and walked to it's border. I have dusted the sand from my sandals and walked away.


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Take care, dude.

And hey, in case you doubt where you're going to... just pray to God with all your heart. Ask Him to guide you to the right path.

For once, learn to listen to God's call: "Come out of her!"

Have a nice day! smile


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Good for you Prince...And Jury, what are you trying to say? That if we are all not united the way you see it that we are all going to...to..to.... dare I say it?? Where BBq's never end?

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Not just like BBQ, deb... Its more than what you can think.


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So you're telling me that only the True Church. "Church of Christ" won't be going to the BBQ? And Billions upon billions of people will be? Even people all thoughout history.

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So you're telling me that only the True Church. "Church of Christ" won't be going to the BBQ? And Billions upon billions of people will be? Even people all thoughout history.

yes ONLY the people of God who remained faithful and obedient to His will from the time God created the world up to the Judgment Day.

Those who will be thrown into the lake of fire are as many as the "sands at the seashore".


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yes ONLY the people of God who remained faithful and obedient to His will from the time God created the world up to the Judgment Day.

Those who will be thrown into the lake of fire are as many as the "sands at the seashore".



Another trait that I've found in every single church of christ follower....blind obediance and a literal translation of the shit in the bible....that is of course, until it doesn't suit their ends. Then, it's a differnet story. Besides, I've actually gone out and done damage to my lungs and liver...trust me...god doesn't have shit planned that I don't already do to myself. I like sex...drugs...and rock and roll. God be damned. Like Billy Joel said..."I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints"


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So you're telling me that only the True Church. "Church of Christ" won't be going to the BBQ? And Billions upon billions of people will be? Even people all thoughout history.



Of course not. To believe otherwise wouldn't be self serving.


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roseries

Roseries are pagan in origin and anyone who embraces these teachings are being deceived into the ways of the pagans and spiritualism.
Bowing down before a graven stone buhdas, other images or any man (pope, etc.) is worshipping other Gods, commandment number one. Praying to the dead is an abomnation! Mary is still Sleeping in the grave as well as king David, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, etc. until the ressurection!

Have you every heard the expression .... if one person is going to jump off a cliff, are you going to follow them? Everyone, is on that wide path!
Few, will find the narrow path! Matthew 7:13,14

Jesus says: Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. John 5:39,40

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I think the Rosary came from Buddhism and they may have gotten it from Hinduism.


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Roseries are pagan in origin and anyone who embraces these teachings are being deceived into the ways of the pagans and spiritualism.
Bowing down before a graven stone buhdas, other images or any man (pope, etc.) is worshipping other Gods, commandment number one. Praying to the dead is an abomnation! Mary is still Sleeping in the grave as well as king David, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, etc. until the ressurection!

Have you every heard the expression .... if one person is going to jump off a cliff, are you going to follow them? Everyone, is on that wide path!
Few, will find the narrow path! Matthew 7:13,14

Jesus says: Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. John 5:39,40


Your ideas are what used to anger me so much about Christianity, but now that I've grown, I just fell sorry for you.


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Your ideas are what used to anger me so much about Christianity, but now that I've grown, I just fell sorry for you.

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Bowing down before a graven stone buhdas, other images or any man (pope, etc.) is worshipping other Gods, commandment number one
actually the first commandment says you shall not have other gods before me, this indicates that it aint wrong to worship or acknowledge other deities/symbols and the likes

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Roseries are pagan in origin and anyone who embraces these teachings are being deceived into the ways of the pagans and spiritualism.
the idea of a son of a god comming to this world through a virgin birth has "pagan" origin as well

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Is this pagan "son of a god" existed?


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Is this pagan "son of a god" existed?
just as much as the christian one

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So world history was wrong.


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