ScarFace Clone
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well then why are you talking about xbox 360 if you want to see screenshots when they dont have any!
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May 13th, 2005 12:00 AM
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Gender: Male Location: Slum Village
Wow nig if i wanted to watch videos and play mp3's id go on my PC!!!
Focus on the games RETARDS!!!
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May 13th, 2005 03:24 AM
ZomBiE_HunTER
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Gender: Male Location: Racoon City
I saw the Mtv specaial and it wasnt anything great I was hoping for something better.
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May 13th, 2005 04:11 AM
Smasandian
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Looks pretty impressive, but what about being fun?
Think about how much its going to cost to publish and develop games for a this killer spec system? And how much it will cost consumers to actually pay for them?
It this what gaming is about now, how much polygons and framerates a console can push?
Whats this thing going to cost? Its definitly not going to be cheap. 300 or more I figure.
May 13th, 2005 06:12 AM
SaTsuJiN
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Gender: Male Location: The Grand Vestibule
quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScarFace Clone
well then why are you talking about xbox 360 if you want to see screenshots when they dont have any!
show me 'where' in my post I talked about xbox 360.. I'd love to know.. as I was merely talking about the next gen systems as a whole, which led for my desire to see screenshots amidst the speculations
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May 13th, 2005 08:50 AM
ZomBiE_HunTER
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smasandian
Looks pretty impressive, but what about being fun?
Think about how much its going to cost to publish and develop games for a this killer spec system? And how much it will cost consumers to actually pay for them?
It this what gaming is about now, how much polygons and framerates a console can push?
Whats this thing going to cost? Its definitly not going to be cheap. 300 or more I figure.
The ps2 and xbox were around 300 hundred so Im hoping that 360 is going to be the same.
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May 13th, 2005 11:03 AM
JKozzy
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Gender: Male Location: Chaos.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
show me 'where' in my post I talked about xbox 360.. I'd love to know.. as I was merely talking about the next gen systems as a whole, which led for my desire to see screenshots amidst the speculations
Wow..
And there ARE screenshots now. Anyone watch MTV last night at 9:30? Half hour special on the 360.
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May 13th, 2005 11:04 AM
ZomBiE_HunTER
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I did and I was hoping somthing better but the specs for the system itself are real nice.
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May 13th, 2005 11:11 AM
JToTheP
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Gender: Male Location: Somewhere on the internet
Microsoft can do whatever it wants, their still the first company putting out the next-gen console ALREADY. Nintendo & Sony will have at least a year-2 years afterwards to get the best technology possible in their systems, and everyone is already saying Ps3 will be a far superior console.
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May 13th, 2005 01:55 PM
WanderingDroid
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Gender: Male Location: Welfare Kingdom of California
Saw it, like it, and buying it!
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May 13th, 2005 02:45 PM
JToTheP
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Gender: Male Location: Somewhere on the internet
I already intended to buy Ps3, but I'm waiting to see what Microsoft & Nintendo sign to their consoles before I decide between the 2.
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May 13th, 2005 02:49 PM
The Rover
Gender: Male Location: Canada
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DCLXVI
Tommorow at 12:30 PM, on CTV ,(a Canadian channel), is supposedly giving the scoop on the "Next Generation XBOX".
Damn me and my dyslexia....I thought they meant PM, but they showed it at midnight....
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May 13th, 2005 04:22 PM
DarkCrawler
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quote: Last night the MTV show "The Next-Generation Xbox Revealed” aired giving us the first official details and images of the next generation Xbox, the Xbox 360. Of course, the Xbox 360‘s name had been one of the worst-kept secrets on the planet for over a month.
Despite the fact work began on the console within months of the original Xbox's launch Microsoft have only now allowed for the official confirmation of the 360's existence something Microsoft barely alluded to until earlier this year.
Microsoft also released the first official pictures of the Xbox 360. One of which was already widely circulated last month. Elegant compared to the current Xbox, the console's exterior was created by two high-end industrial design firms in Osaka, Japan, and San Francisco. Like the PlayStation 2, the 360 can either lay flat or stand on its side. But while it will come in a white-silver colour, its appearance will also be customisable, courtesy of a detachable faceplate. The console's dashboard will also be customisable, as will the pop-up guide described by Microsoft corporate vice president and chief XNA architect J Allard in his 2005 Game Developers Conference keynote speech.
Today also marked the release of the Xbox 360's technical specifications. As had been long-rumoured, it has a custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU with three symmetrical 3.2GHz cores capable of 9 billion dot product operations per second. It sports a 500MHz custom ATI Graphics Processor with 10MB of embedded DRAM, 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines, and a unified shader architecture capable of 48 billion shader operations per second. Its polygon performance is 500 million triangles per second, with a pixel fill rate of 16 gigasamples per second. The 360's unified memory architecture will rival that of a high-end PC, with 512MB GDDR3 RAM and 700MHz DDR. Overall, the console will be capable of a whopping teraflop of overall system floating-point performance.
Besides its processing prowess, the Xbox 360 will come with three USB 2.0 slots hidden behind a trapdoor for peripherals, and an infrared port that will work with any standard universal remote to control music and movies. It will also have both HD digital and standard audio-visual outputs, since all games will be supported at 16:9 widescreen at 720p and 1080i resolution, replete with antialiasing functionality.
The Xbox 360 will come standard with one wireless controller, which the console is optimized for. “With the rechargeable battery option, it will actually come with a cable. So if your battery low light comes up, you can plug the cable back in and continue gaming while you're trickle charging." Said cable would be USB, according to Allard, who did not say if the rechargeable battery option would cost extra. The standard controller will take two AA batteries.
The Xbox 360 controller has also been redesigned. The removable memory cards--now upgraded to 64MB in size--will be inserted into the console directly, allowing for a less-bulky controller. "It's lighter and smaller than the Xbox 1 controller," said Allard who confirmed rumours that Microsoft "moved the black and white buttons up to the shoulders." Each controller will have a jack compatible with any standard cellular phone headset that gamers can use as an Xbox Live headset. "Any standard cell phone headset may be used," said Allard "Plug it in. Boom! You're on [Xbox] Live. You're talking to your friends."
Speaking of Xbox Live, the unit will be "optimized for online play" out of the box. For the hardwired, it will sport a built-in Ethernet port like the original Xbox. For the wireless, it will be "Wi-Fi Ready" for 802.11 A, B, and G Wi-Fi capability, which will be available via a "connector pack that's a pack of gum size," according to Allard.
According to its spec sheet, the Xbox 360 will come with an external hard drive. But, contrary to rumours, the hard drive will only be 20 gigabytes, not the rumoured 40GB. As shown in previously leaked pictures, the 360's "outrigger" hard drive will snap into one end of the console, and can be removed and plugged into other 360s. "Let's say you're a Live guy and you've downloaded a whole bunch of premium content, ripped a whole bunch of music," said Allard. "You can bring it over and we can enjoy it at my house."
Besides its own multimedia capabilities, the 360 will be able to link up to a Microsoft Media Center PC for further functionality. "If you have a Media Center on your home network, you can stream music, you can stream photos, or you could stream high def sports and high-def movies from your media centre over your Xbox 360," said Allard.
The Xbox 360 will also come with complimentary access to the next generation of Xbox Live--sort of. Again, as previously rumoured, Xbox Live will soon come in two flavours: Xbox Live Silver and Xbox Live Gold. The silver version of the service will be free to Xbox 360 owners and will give gamers access to basic next-gen Live services.
First off, Silver subscribers will be able to create their own Gamer Profile. As J Allard mentioned in his GDC keynote, this will have several components, including: the "Gamer Card" summary of its owner, a "Gamerscore" summary with said owner's on- and offline gaming achievements (which will also be listed separately), and a "Reputation" showing how other gamers rate the owner via an eBay-style feedback system. This will also list the owner's preference of GamerZone (see below).
Xbox Live Silver will also give users access to the Xbox Live Marketplace, which will allow players to download "new game trailers, demos, episodic content, new game levels, maps, weapons, vehicles, skins and other types of new content on demand," according to Microsoft. While some of this content will be free, as Allard outlined in his GDC keynote, most will cost a small amount of money via microtransactions of less than one dollar. But rather than charging their credit cards for every five-cent Project Gotham Racing III decal, Xbox Live subscribers will have to prepurchase blocks of credit, either directly from Microsoft or via prepaid cards from retailers like GameStop.
The gamer profile will also denote which "GamerZone" the owner prefers. That's right: to separate the n00bs from the 733ts, the new Xbox Live is broken down into four zones: "R&R," for casual players; "Pro," for the hardcore; "Underground," for "those who take an alternative approach to gaming," according to Microsoft; and "Family" for all-ages gaming.
Not just for games any more, voice chat in the new Xbox Live will now be accessible to Silver subscribers whenever the 360 is on--making it a de facto alternative to the phone. "You no longer have to be playing the same game or in the same game session to communicate," said Microsoft. "You can be playing a game while your friend is watching a movie."
Xbox Live Silver also includes access to massively multiplayer online games, though subscription fees to said games still apply. But to engage in online multiplayer sessions with any other type of game, gamers will have to shell out for Xbox Live Gold, the 360's premium service. Xbox Live subscribers will be able to swap their current accounts for Gold accounts for free.
Besides facilitating online play, XBL Gold will also feature the video chat functionality Allard demonstrated at E3 in 2004, although it will require the purchase of an EyeToy-like peripheral for the "video camera ready" console. Gold members will also be able to enter multiplayer online tournaments that Microsoft plans on staging, as well as participate in "Xbox Live online programming" such as celebrity gaming sessions and contests.
But for all the details Microsoft did release today, several major questions about the Xbox 360 remain unanswered. Foremost among these is the console's price, which analysts estimate will run between $299 and $399--and some predict will be $360. Nor did Microsoft address whether or not there will be more than one version of the Xbox 360 on store shelves at launch.
Microsoft also danced around the subject of backward compatibility for the time being. "The obvious point that comes up that's always interesting to talk about is backward compatibility and it's something we will talk about at E3," said Bach. "We haven't been public with what's happening there for a lot of different reasons and that will end on Monday night. That's one of the few things I am bound by my own NDA not to discuss."
However, Bach did make one thing abundantly clear, the Xbox 360 will arrive by Christmas 2005 in all territories. "The last thing I'll say is just to confirm we will be launching the next generation in North America and Europe and Japan this holiday season," he said.
PS3 Portal will have more information on the Xbox 360 when Microsoft holds its press conference next Monday night at E3 in Los Angeles.
PS3 don't seem to be very bad, either.
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May 13th, 2005 04:44 PM
S_D_J
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Gender: Male Location: Coming to Gotham
pretty impresive, the price will be an issue though
but all I care it's GAMES, if it has good games, then it'll be great
we want games not specs
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May 13th, 2005 04:57 PM
Smasandian
Smell the Ashes
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I still say its going to cost alot of money.
The tech behind the new XBOX is current as top of the line PC's. I'm thinking its going to be 400 or more.
With this price and no Halo or killer software (too early to tell), will it fly?
If the choice is between XBOX and the PS3 or Nintendo, these factors could crush the new XBOX.
May 13th, 2005 04:59 PM
daniel_scott_jr
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Gender: Male Location: under your pillow!!!!!
does any body here play halo 2?
May 13th, 2005 05:01 PM
JToTheP
Waitin for Brawl
Gender: Male Location: Somewhere on the internet
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smasandian
I still say its going to cost alot of money.
The tech behind the new XBOX is current as top of the line PC's. I'm thinking its going to be 400 or more.
With this price and no Halo or killer software (too early to tell), will it fly?
If the choice is between XBOX and the PS3 or Nintendo, these factors could crush the new XBOX.
It's been confirmed the new games will cost between $60-$70, so it's a give in for the 360, & Ps3 to cost $400+, and the Revolution to cost at least $300.
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May 13th, 2005 05:11 PM
Smasandian
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$70 is a boatload of money for a game. I rather have a less powerful system if its going to cost me 500 bucks or more to play one game. Thats horrible.
May 13th, 2005 06:02 PM
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