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Sidious Vader's father?
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Because he was told by Qui-Gon who is one with the force and thus knows.


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because he would still be alive.
and the sith are all liars.


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Of course they are. That is what I tell them to be. I value deception.


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thanks for putting that spoiler in the topic title..

i really wanted to read that...

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It isn't true anyways.


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You guys are giving sids too much credit. He made a diabolical plan, yes, but allot of what favored him was just good fortune. The force made anikin and anikin was found, by a jedi! Through the force Qui Gon knew intinclivley of his importance. Unfortunatley he died before he could raise anikin as a jedi and the results of the future altered greatly. Sids was able to manipulate anikin through his weakness and convert him to the darkside, just like he was able to convert Dooku under his wing. If your a powerfull jedi and your wavering sids is not the guy to be around! Sids saw the weakness in this young powerfull jedi and he took advantage of the oppurtunity to convert such someone so gifted. When the time came, just like he forgot about Dooku for anikin, he forgot about anikin for luke, though he underestimated both Luke AND anikin and he parached for it.
A brilliant mastermind that underestimated a family that was spawned by the force itself. No matter how you slice it the force succeeded in killing the lone lord of the sith, if not through father alone, fast forward a few years and it would be by the son showing mercy to the father, and then the father turning his back on sids that never would have suspected there was still good waiting to come out of anikin.


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I agree with you mostly. One of the best things about Sidious is his ability to use what he is given, though. He is able to use whatever situation he is given to his advantage.


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stupidest thing ive ever herd


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the hole point about how Vader turned back good again and became the chosen one was based on family and love, LUKE LEIA, if palpi is his father it kind of defeats the hole reason why luke and leia are so important. simple lol


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Agreed. rock


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the hole point about how Vader turned back good again and became the chosen one was based on family and love, LUKE LEIA, if palpi is his father it kind of defeats the hole reason why luke and leia are so important. simple lol


Yeah I was thinking about this.

I think this is ploy in GL's story telling to throw off the audience, future newbies I mean.

In the movie, 2 scenes bring light that there is doubt to Anikan being the chosen. The opera scene, and the Jedi/clone gunship scene w/ yoda, OB, and mace.

Basically I think he is trying to throw off the audience trying to get them believe that Anikan is not the chosen one, and that he was ment to be a bad guy.

Until of course, he fulfills the prophecy in ROTJ.


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Utter bullshite, how could Sidious create a being with a higher midi-chlorian count than himself? Especially with a woman who had no power in the force? If Sidious could do that it would be done under his strict supervision and the child would be his apprentice from birth, he wouldn't leave him on some backwater planet for the Jedi to find him.


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wow, that's a stretch...


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I agree with Milosz006 too. There are so many reasons why it can't be true, though it is an interesting thought.


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on a personal note.......

My Chosen one = Luke

*dons a flamage prevention suit...

Isn't it's Lukes actions that bring about the balancing of the force? he is the one who throws down his lightsaber and faces the Emperor unarmed.

I know Anakin is meant to be 'the chosen one' but sorry.... it will always be that farm boy from Tat that brought light back into the galaxy


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Anakin was still the Chosen One. George Lucus said so. However, he needed the help of his children because he didn't make the right choice to begin with when he could.


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Yep, the role of the Chosen One is to DESTROY the Sith, Luke got his @$$ beat by the Sith, and Anakin then killed the Sith and thus full filled the prophecy. So Luke was an integral part of the process, but then again so way Yoda and Ben for training Luke and hiding the twins, and Bail for hiding Leia, and the Lars for harboring Luke...but there is only one Chosen One: the one who could destroy the Sith which is clearly Anakin.


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I got flamed for posting this earlier

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...nikin+been+born


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why?


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