Sure, can you specify exactly what you want me to prove? And what's my opinion again? I stated no opinions. I've stated common facts. I never accused you of saying anything. And not that I care but if you think you haven't bashed, then scroll up.
"There have been plenty of mistakes.... But all of those have made life better" lol, what kinda crap is that. They were mistakes.
A toilet, what a nice example. See that's what I mean. What about the A bomb what about the hundreds of other scientifically approved cancer causing chemicals and preservatives that they barbarically test on animals that are injected into our food everyday just to make 'em salable forget healthy. Chemicals like preservatives and formaldehyde, the toxin used to preserve bodies to keep them from rotting too early like at funeral homes. What about cigarettes, what about incurable deceases, what about blindness, paralysis and the list goes on and on. you bubbleheads never mention that. Then they become upset and bash creationism and it's believers. Gay.
Over the course of human history about a trillion people have died in the name of science. There was no religion in the beginning..but there was science, eh..
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My point of view isn't crap.... Don't bash it please... But there will always be mistakes. God didn't make us perfect, So when we do stuff such as Build a bridge, It is enevitable that some people might die in the process through acidents.. Tragic, But there sacrafice is very benifical to our life. Same with animal testing, No one wants to test on animals, But its the only safe way of knowing that a drug can help, You want a cure for cancer? well theres going to be costs..... If not, don't take any medication next time your sick as you don't want to be a hypocrite...
Im much the same way some people have used religion for evil; E.G. Spanish Inquisitions
some people will use science for evil... If you want to count all the people that have died due to holy wars... Well... erm... Theres too many.. Science has produced its fair share of monsters, Religion is just the same, its a tic for tact argument there.. No point continuing it.. as I said before... And calling us Gay isn't very nice... Please don't bash...
Holy wars... People using the bible as a reason to kill others... Just like the guys on Jerry springer who claim all Jews should be killed as it said so in the bible... Tic for tac.. Every time you point out a science I could point out the same in religion...
There is a thing that a concept can't be born without the right words and knowledge. Those who created the bible didn't know the extent of the universe, why or how life existed (other then God) and had other fundemental limitations. They could never have envisioned aliens as they lacked the ground work for it.
Actually they often are. For example cancer is better understood now then ever before, and it often isn't a death sentence anymore - it can be identified, controlled, reduced to give more time and in plenty of cases removed completely letting a person live a normal, long life. This compared with medical practices 50, 100 or a 1000 years ago is a vast improvement. And what of the Church's approach at times to illness and injury? To pray for the sick. And for every life threatening disease that abounds today (cancer, heart disease, aids) there are as many that have had their teeth removed - polio, measles, Spanish Flu, scrofula, small pox, cholera, typhoid and so on.
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That's you're big gap, the lack of a cure for a disease as complex as cancer. Do you know anything about human biology and molecular genetics whatsoever? Do you know anything about the state of cancer research? The answer to both these questions is obviously "No."
I have friends who work in cancer research, I work in neuroscience. I have people all around me every day that devote their careers, their adult lives, to learning more about the mechanisms of disease. The more we understand the more that can be done to alleviate suffering. Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Huntington's, Cancers, Diabetes, Stroke, Heart disease. If you had even the tiniest idea how much time and effort is devoted to medical research...
You sit at a computer, writing on the internet. You probably drive a car, watch television. If you get sick you go to a doctor and seek medicine. You use a phone, you have indoor plumbing, you've likely had vaccinations for such things as polio, rubella, measles. All products of science. You are a hypocrite.
"Hypocrisy makes me gag."
Science is progressive. Occasionally there are breakthroughs but for the most part it moves in increments. Don't fault scientists for not having found the vaunted cures to these diseases, fault your god for making them in the first place.
There are about 50 billion Galaxy's in our universe each one with 200-500 billion stars. Lets say (something ridiculous) about 1% of those stars have a planet rotating around them which can support life. Lets say 1% of those planets had intelligent life... You do the math, because that would still be an incredible amount of civilizations in our universe.
Imo people who do not believe in life elsewhere in the universe are extremely ignorant and uneducated about the universe its self. For life to have evolved here on Earth but not on any other of the 100,000 trillion planets in our universe, is well again in my opinion stupid.
What if they existed. Hm. If they did exist and Earth found out about them, I hope they have good intentions and I hope the meeting is a pleasant one where we could learn from them and vise versa.
Like I hope we don't panic like I know Earthlings would.
__________________ "The darkside, Sidious, is an illness no true Sith wishes to be cured of, my young apprentice .."
I'd like to share something with you all. In all seriousness. I've been reading some messages and know probably some of you will say bullshit but this is a true story. Also, this is why I beleive their are possibly "aliens" out there. about 9 years ago, I and my gf were on a beach off of Lake Michigan in the U.S. and e both saw this thing in the sky that looked kind of like a piece of tin foil that was crushed in a ball but carefully so that it retained a faceted structure. It also was rotating, and the crazy thing was, if this doesn't sound crazy already, was that I could see the rays of sunlight reflecting off of those facets. Oh, and it was maybe 3 in the afternoon. The sky was blue and there were few clouds, none of which obstructed our view. One of the things I remember distinctly from that day was we both looked at each other with really puzzled looks on our faces and me saying that I wish I had a camera. I wasn't high, on drugs or drunk, either so please don't ask. I don't care if anyone believes me but that's the truth.
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Feb 7th, 2006 10:06 PM
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