I think in T2 it was actually the grenade launcher, his back-up battery and the fact that he actually wasn't the target. The T1000 didn't care whether Terminator functioned or was dismantled so much as whether or not he could kill John Connor or not.
In Terminator 3 when the T850 had to go up against plasma cannons, then yes, he had some serious good guy armor.
Not to mention when the TX kicked off his head.. and decided to let him live. Bit of a dumb move if you ask me, a terminator is a terminator, not a 'reprogrammer'.
Everyone is obssessed that Robocop has to face Terminator.. Why not throw the T1000 and the chicken walker robot with Kane's brain in it back into the mix so they have to work together to defeat Skynet and some other corporation... The story could be based on how skynet managed to find a way to jump dimensions as well as time to try and secure its survival... At least that would add some good twist apart from Robo and Terminator just bashing the bolts out of each other (literally)
Technically the T-X didn't let the Terminator live because it's not actually a living thing. The T-101 and the T-X both come equipped with detailed files on human anatomy to make them more efficient killers of humans. The T-X was probably not viewing the Terminator as a human and saw it only necessary to eradicate an immediate threat. When attacking a human the Terminators are programmed to kill all the way and do so effectively.
I agree that RoboCop's Auto-9 would do nothing against a T-800 (or any other Terminator). This is why the movie would have to actually utilize storyline and plot (something that movies rarely do these days) as opposed to relying purely on the action. I'm not saying there shouldn't be any, but it definately shouldn't be two hours of Robo and Termi knocking each other around.
Although, if it did come down to a fist/firefight between the two, you have to take into account the resources at both of their disposals. For example, the T-800 may be stronger or quicker, but RoboCop has things like the Cobra Assault Cannon at his disposal, not to mention the E-209s. After all, a T-800 can be pretty much dismantled by simple homemade explosives (ala Reese's plastique), so a Cobra round would blow the thing to Kingdom Come.
But remember, the Terminator only got those weapons because of special situations. In T2 he got the weapons from Enrique's bunker and in T3 he got them from Sarah's "specially made" grave.
The Terminator could break into a armory(like those people did in Robocop 3) and take what the T-800 needs. Or like in the comic "Robcop Vs. Terminator" it could break into the police armory and get the weapons from there.
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No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. Boondock Saint is right. Terminator got those weapons at his disposal, either from the past or the future. It doesn't pull a gun from his pocket (as if it has any). It gets guns from dead bodies, armourys and in (Terminator1) gun shops. You all are just looking for excuses. I'm not saying i hate the Terminator, i quite like him, it's just that in the future battle, I've never seen a T-800/T-850 with a plasma gun (I'm reffering to the Terminator). The Robocop is perseverent, and never gives up, and would give his life for justice. Plus, Robocop has a super duper accurate aiming computer and if the Terminator came anywhere near him, he'd shoot its wires which can be clearly seen through the exo skeloton. Long story short: Robocop, thick and heavy armour (which makes him slow), human brain which means he is smart and is not defective plus he always has a gun at his diposal, big or small it's always good to have any gun. One more thing, whoever saw the Terminator run?
P.S: I think the DeLorean would be a good Robocop-mobile.
It can't be bargained with; it can't be reasoned with; it doesn't feel pitty or remorse and it absolutely will not stop ever, until you are dead.
You still don't get it do you? That's what he does. That's all he does. You can't stop him. He'll wade through you, reach down her throat and pull her ****ing heart out.
Those "wires" are actually cables and are bullet proof, at least against Robocop's 9mm Beretta 93R (Besides it's not like they are exposed when covered with flesh). They have never been broken in any of the three Terminator films. The Terminator is also extremely accurate as he can blow off locks with a shotgun one-handed while driving sixty-miles an hour on a motorcycle.
It's a Beretta 93R. It fires 9mm x 19 rounds which some people consider "too weak" to be used against an unarmored human target (these are proponents of .45ACP) It can be stopped by a flak jacket. The Terminator can take solid hits from 12-gauge shotgun rounds and 7.62mm NATO rifle rounds. In other words, firing that weapon would be an entirely useless gesture. Just a waste of bullets really.
He runs after Reese and Sarah outside of Tech-Noir. He runs to his motor cycle outside the Tiki Motel.
In T2 he runs into the elevator at the mental hospital.
In T3 he runs underneath the blast door as it is closing.
Terminators don't run often for the sake of drama, but they can definitly run.
I suppose your right, his baretta is useless. But when you think of it, the baretta was intended for Detroit scum, the police didnt expect evil robots to suddenly sold in every corner shop (sarcastically). If the robocop got close enough to the terminator, he could tear through the armoured wires and would make the terminators joints very stiff. A picture DOES paint a thousand words, your right. But in the destruction and rubble, surely the terminator wouldnt have the plasma gun welded to his hand. The robocop could propbablyuse his crappy little baretta to disarm the terminator in some way. I admit i went a bit over the top with that big explanation thing, but boondock saint is right, it would rely on the integrety of the scriptwriter. If there is a movie to come out. Oh yes, one more thing, i dont see any scriptwriter putting 5.6 NATO rounds, 9mm rounds etc. Asociating with the terminators body armour. They would discuss this thing for hours on end before they come up with a descision. This is all a waste of time reading this but imagine the battle. Fire burning everywhere, debris falling from the sky, the smell of blood in the air and two equally as challenging robots unarmed and with only one thing on each of their minds. Domination over mankind and The rescue of mankind. You of all people should know modern scriptwriting, they hardly have a brain between them!
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