Bruce used to use a 50 pound weight built on a crude invention of his to practice his inch punch, and do this for very long periods of time. I'm not sure that I would give Ali the durability over Lee to be honest. Lee, used to do so many push ups that he had to figure out a way to save time while doing other activities, so he strapped on electric pads to stimulate his pectoral muscles. Lee's endurance was absolutely incredible for a human being. People forget how hard it is to maintain a horse stance, if they even know what one is. I challenge anyone to go into a horse stance, and maintain it for 10 minutes. Lee could remain in this stance for over an hour at a time, and still throw punches.
Compared to Lee's level of athleticism, Ali was an out of shape old man. Your post was dead on the money.
Why don't you go to a dojo and ask if you can spar with one of the black belts of the style, and see how that works for you? I bet you'll be seeing things differently then.. Well when you are able to see again that is. Wait you're supposed to be the mature on here right?
I'm guessing IWKA stands for something with KArate Association in it. McDojo as another poster stated, Wing Chun traditional grades are numbered. These belts are something added by the McDojo Mclicensing body.
A few hooks to the body would crumple those fruits. Standing on one leg really isn't going to stop a right cross of doom!
Well, SirWS, I just showed you that Wing Chun, no matter the form, does have belted forms. It was the first link in a google search. We Americans like to...get this...Americanize lots of shit. We are fat and boss like that.
And those Wing Chun trainees would redirect the hook like it was nothing. Like water...weeeeeee!
Looks like he got pwned at his own game. And he said he never saw a pwning like that before. So tell us how it feels to fall on your @$$ Anus... I mean Anal.
When you show me a traditional Chinese martial artist doing anything but losing in any kind of recorded competition. I'll believe you. I know not of whom this SirWS is I am Lee, Anal Lee.
They are McDojo's, you only have to look at the physical condition of those fruits to realise they are your typical McDojo Karate Kids. Much like you. You watch Fist of the North Star and believe it. With your 'magic' fantasy blocking rubbish. Show me that working in a real fight please or even a competition Goku.
Last edited by Anal Lee on Jan 11th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Hey you made a comment and was corrected. You should know the game before you play. Instead, you wound up falling on your @$$, which took you nearly a half an hour to recover from.
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Real Wing Chun doesn't give belts. Anyone can set themselves up as a 'Master' that's what Mcdojo's do. Then they take money from kids like you. You believe it, pull the crane technique on a boxer and end up spitting teeth. Sad
Don't be silly, only a dunce like you would choose to use forms in a real fight. People use that form for balance and strength. Also only a child would attempt to get under a grown mans skin like you are attempting to do to me. It's obvious that you're bored. So like the adult that I am, I will allow you to get the last quip or insult in, and call it a day. There are schools of wing chun that have a belt system whether you like it or not. If you think its for pansies, fairies, punks, or whatever other notion you have in mind, why don't you go and challenge a practitioner of the style, and see for yourself.
Why don't I challenge? I leave that shit to fantasy martial artists like Lee and their made up Kung Fu Dojo Wars etc. I've no desire to beat up some tiny oriental making monkey noises, who has never done any full contact sparring and just theoretically believe in his techniques. Which frankly are hopeless.
We leave the challenging to the fantasy Martial artists, I'd far rather see Wing Chunners bring there legal arm breaking blocks to Boxing and Muay Thai competitions as it would change the way we see combat, but of course it wouldn't because it's all theoretical fantasy Martial Arts. You'd think we'd have a verifiable record of one of these blocks working in sport, but we don't.
They don't really do proper resistance training, or have the quality diet and supplements to reach normal human size.
Yeah none of this has changed the following facts:
Lee is unproven, speculative and whilst fit could have a glass jaw for all we know and will not be able to cope with a mobile Ali throwing fast combos. Even stick and move might mess him up..
(Remember the preaching of it's virtues in showing it messing up Bolo in Enter the Dragon etc etc?) And given how easily he died, it may be that his brain would not be able to cope with the repeated, rapid, jarring of his head that would be unavoidable when ever Ali is within range...and all knowledge of forms means shot when you cant think cause youre violently shocked/concussed.
Ali is vastly proven, documented and has all the tools to wreak destruction on Lee with relative impunity.
No way can Lee dominate (Or likely get near) the Ali who was as unfindable and near superhumanly elusive as he was against Liston (Yes, the time he fought him for a round or so blind!!!!) and Big Cat Williams, as Durable as he was against Ernie Shavers, George Foreman or as Stamina for throwing shots at speed.
Ali wins.
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Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Jan 11th, 2012 at 01:03 PM
Alleged fighting prowess as hearsay, legends and movies don't count in a real fight setting. Just going to have to bite your lip and accept this.
The fight ended in a draw, that martial-artist was 220lbs, as tall as Ali and Ali wasn't in his prime, as he would be here. Point was, Ali can take a kick and not be destroyed as some argued here. Ali can also take a punch, many of them in fact. Lee's not proven this.
LoL, "martial art ignorance", coming from someone who's basing Lee's supposed fighting abilities on action films and demonstrations against objects and people standing still.
Ali's "legend" has a solid fighting-record to back it up. What proof do you have for Lee? Enter The Dragon, his one-inch punch demonstration, some Asian guy(what what his fight-record?) he took out and the rantings of other celebrities.