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Deronn Solo
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Concession accepted Nova, tbh.

None of that, is really much of an argument. If Kun is so very clearly above Joruus, than it shouldn't be hard to prove it.


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Deronn Solo
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Originally posted by AncientPower
Lol @ C'boath > Kun, he's definitely powerful but Kun tier? Not at all.


Make an actual argument then, LAL. I'll probably even entertain it if it's worth my time. Really don't see how Kun is so easily above Darth Vader level threat, someone hinted to be more powerful than Luke during the Thrawn trilogy, and significantly above his Rebellion era self (who was already confirmed to be one of the most powerful Jedi who has ever lived, and sport some very good Force feats)


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Jaggarath
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Originally posted by SunRazer
Sidious isn't more powerful than Luke.

Yes he is, lmfao. Luke-unrestrained as we saw against the Vong in Unifying Force and Caedus isn't breaking through the fabric of space.

While he might have the raw power and deep reserves, I'm talking about applicable combat power that we will see in a fight, tbh.


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Deronn Solo
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...you do know a Force Storm isn't actually combat the friendly, right? Not to mention, Luke wouldn't be using powers on a destructive scale like that from the get-go because he's a lightsider.

Also, in all honestly, Luke has used far larger range of powers he's used in combat than Sidious has, and every power they do display in common, Luke showings edges Palpatine'e out in them.


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Jaggarath
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I mean, Luke has never shown that type of power - ever. It's really just pure speculation based on Lucas quotes and his ancestry.

Force Storm is obviously an immense indication of power and mastery over extremely rare arts of the dark side.

I recognize he's a lightsider, but that doesn't change my point. He has fought unrestrained before and hasn't scratched what Palpatine did.


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Deronn Solo
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I understand what you're saying, but Luke's TP, TK, AE, absorption/deflection are all more impressive than what we've seen from Palpatine in those categories, and some aren't even close by showings.

Virtually the only thing Sidious has going for him is a DS power in Force Storm, something that Luke would never attempt to use, do to morals.


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Jaggarath
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The fact Luke is better in those categories are irrelevant to my point. erm

If this was a "Most Masterful / Skilled Jedi, Dark Jedi and Sith" thread then there would be a debate, but there's not really here.

This thread is discussing who is more powerful, and a Force Storm is a greater indication of power than any feat Luke has ever produced.

You're assuming Luke has the power to do the Force Storm(s), just hasn't since he has morals. I call BS since Luke hasn't shown that caliber of power.


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What about that feat where Luke anchored himself so utterly that even the black hole at the center of the universe couldn't have moved him?


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Nephthys
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IIRC it's pretty specific for hyperbole.

Ok, what about when he pinned Jacen without even moving? Or the fact that he actually beat Sidious far from his prime (in questionable circumstances)?


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If he anchored himself to the ground, the ground would be destroyed via the blackhole. erm

How about that time Sidious summoned multiple wormholes throughout the galaxy at the same time that devastated the surface of Coruscant and had the potential power to destroy entire fleets yo.

But nah, how about Luke TKing someone, that's better than a galactic-wide showing of power.

And besting Palpatine in a duel is, at most, a display of comparable Force-augmentation in terms of power. And given the clones deteriorated fast and were unstable, I don't think it's a game changer.


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Valkorion and Sidious disintegrate Skywalker


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It's not hyperbole, because it mentions several other specific objects being unable to move him as well.

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Concession accepted Nova, tbh.

None of that, is really much of an argument. If Kun is so very clearly above Joruus, than it shouldn't be hard to prove it.


Not wasting my time on this, lol. But being more powerful than beings more powerful than Vader puts him above Joruus, lmao.

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Deronn Solo
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Then why reply? You said you didn't want to debate then let it go and move on. I'm not even going to bother forming a rebuttal to your conjecture either.


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lmao

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Deronn Solo
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Yeeep.
Always have to have the last word, KEK.


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Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Make an actual argument then, LAL. I'll probably even entertain it if it's worth my time. Really don't see how Kun is so easily above Darth Vader level threat, someone hinted to be more powerful than Luke during the Thrawn trilogy, and significantly above his Rebellion era self (who was already confirmed to be one of the most powerful Jedi who has ever lived, and sport some very good Force feats)


1.He mastered the Dark Side to a degree greater than Vader.

2.He is compared to Sidious by Luke as one of the greatest focal points of the Dark Side he's ever known.

3.As a disembodied will he displayed powers far beyond either Luke and Kyp Durron, despite being inferior to his physical form.

4.His being far more powerful than Thon. Someone able to contain and trap the most powerful Dark Side Nexus(Ambria) on Jedi record. As well as it's spirits whilst exhausted.

5.Being the most powerful Dark Sider in the known galaxy, more powerful than Ulic Qel-Droma. One of the most powerful Sith of all time and a benchmark to compare Sidious to.

6.His being much more powerful than Freedon Nadd, whom in turn was far more powerful than Naga Sadow a very powerful Sith unmatched in his time.

Yes, he's definitely more powerful than C'boath. kek


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SunRazer
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Yeeep.
Always have to have the last word, KEK.


lol If you knew anything about me, you'd realize I abandoned several CV debates (and on here, I believe) if I thought there was no point in responding. I was just laughing at you calling third-person, objective canonical statements "my conjecture".

By the way, Luke comparing Kun (as a spirit, which would make him weaker than he was in life) more to Sidious than to Vader paints a pretty good picture of how powerful Kun is. Joruus doesn't have hype on that level, either. Just for good measure, Exar's also far more powerful than Force users with powers that have affected entire planets.

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Deronn Solo
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LAL. Really? That is supposed to be worth my time? Some of that shit is conjecture, and a lot of that shit doesn't prove Kun > C'baoth.


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