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Prod
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: United States, California
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the clones have NO feelings...they r like robots...and they follow instrctions like robots...
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Lazerlike42
Darth Incompetant
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusettes, United States
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Sort of but they do have feelings, or something close anyways. They have compassion, anyways.
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Jun 5th, 2005 04:24 AM |
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REXXXX
Networking
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: San DiegoModerator
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According to Wizards of the Coast, ARC troopers are exempt from Order 66! But I don't think so...it'd leave too many loopholes.
There were some other Jedi that we would have been affected by their deaths too. Names elude me...
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Jun 5th, 2005 04:30 AM |
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Newjak
I am Beyond Power
Registered: May 2005
Location: United States
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I feel that in the end the clones were nothing more than a kinda of robot. They still had intelligance which gives them the ability to form complex plans and as well to change and reform them as need be. With this kinda of intelligence it gives the clones a kinda of emotional quality as well. alas though they are basically droids. They are manufactured and programed since childhood to do specific orders given to them. I think sidous simply had order 66 simply programed into them as a primary function. As the order is given their function changes so that means the plans they were following change also changing what emotion they give off.
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Jun 5th, 2005 04:35 AM |
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Delta 62
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Somewhere..
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I was thinking about the Commandos a while back. I doubt they'd have been affected either, not only because of their advanced growth and training but also because they were meant to work alone in squads. They wouldn't have been around Jedi to turn on them.
The "Order 66 gene" that was implanted into all clones probably released an enzyme or something when the Order came. They instantly obeyed the command and sought out the nearest Jedi. I don't really see how people are talking about the clones like they hid their true intentions from the Jedi and all that crap. The clones turned because they were literally forced to by a genetic process. They didn't have a choice.
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Jun 5th, 2005 05:26 AM |
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king_arthur
Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Australia
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I reckon they should of said something to the Jedi like
Clonetrooper: I'm sorry sir, the Emperor has spoken.
Jedi: What...?
Clonetrooper: I have no choice (blast)
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Jun 11th, 2005 01:34 AM |
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mikkosison_360
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I think that the part where Ki-Adi-Mundi got killed was cuz there were fire shots coming from both sides, no wonder he got killed. For Aayla Secura, she wasnt aware at all. The clones shot from behind. And for that girl in the speeder bike, the clones stepped on the breaks and had a clear shot at her. Plo-Koon didn't even have a chance to spin his ship around because of the quick blaster shots. Sure, they could sense it, but the clones had a strong mind, because they were, like you guys said, like robots, similar to battle droids. In my opinion, only yoda sensed it, for two reasons, first, hes the most powerful jedi, and second he wasn't in a tough situation like ki-adi-mundi, he was currently fighting droids, plo-koon was piloting a jet at the moment, he didn't really have that much control. Aayla Secura was fine, but, like i said, yoda is powerful.
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Jun 11th, 2005 01:50 AM |
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Darth Travizzle
Step Off
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: None of your freaking business!
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Besides, it was EXCECUTE oreder 66, not commence. you have to pay attention to the details.
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Jun 11th, 2005 04:50 AM |
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Darth_Rankkor
Shikido Master
Registered: May 2005
Location: Portugal
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Speaking about details, the prime minister of kamino spoke about the clones, being superior to droids because they think and are creative. The order would be something instructed to them and nothing else. They are nothing like the droids. They've obeyed because it was part of their training and allegiance to the republic and the emperor. About other jedi being killed, there aren't much more. Some die in the temple, others are killed by palpatine, and in the clone wars cartoon a lot bunch of them is killed so that leaves the ones you've seen
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Jun 11th, 2005 10:46 AM |
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Cybervader
Master of Cyberspace
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Singapore Star System
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i dunno if this is correct..but maybe the 'Execute Order 66' thing finally demonstrates to us why palpatine wanted that army of the republic so much in episode 2. It is his OWN army.
In episode 1, sidious purposely made the trade federation have a blockade on naboo, since he is the senator palpatine there. By doin so, as all the events unfold,he is able to gain sympathy from the senate and became Chancellor. (note that he was the one who suggest to queen amidala on the vote-of-no-confidence issue)
Then in episode 2, he used dooku to lead the separatists to become a military force to be reckoned with (yet sending him secretly to order those clones), so the republic would just have to have an army to counter it, despite ppl like amidala wanting to defeat its creation act.
Notice that the discussion of the emergency powers were staged infront of jar-jar binks,because they know he was dumb enuff to believe them.
"If only..Senator Amidala were here.."
PALPATINE: "Hmm.."(lingering)
So that jar-jar dumb of a creature 'played the hero' by proposing the Emergency Power in the senate. For God sake's amidala wud haf opposed to that very thing!
Palpatine as the chancellor was then able to 'create' the army, which was incidentally ALREADY created in Kamino.
As the chancellor, he has control of the army, who would abide by him as the legal leader. 'Execute Order 66' finally shows his intention for having them..they were his hands and legs to control the galaxy..and that was how it was so in the galactic empire..in episodes 4,5 and 6..
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Jun 11th, 2005 11:02 AM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKCo-Admin
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It's not as if the Clones are each as good as Jango!
But this is another example in Star Wars of film-making necessity vs. absolute logic. Let's say each Jedi took out a hundred clones before he doed. What would that add to the story, as opposed to how much extra time it would take on screen?
Let's have a look at the dramatic necessities of that scene:
Palpatine issues Order 66, and by a combination of surprise and numbers, the Clones kill the Jedi they are working with.
We know, because Obi-Wan bothers to shut off the re-call system, that not every Jedi dies this way, but many clearly do.
We therefore see scenes by which Jedi are killed after Order 66 by a combination of numbers and surprise.
Therefore the scene has accomplished its dramatic necessity. More fighting would have been nice, but not necessary. Good filmmaking often involves the removal of stuff that is not totally necessary, and I very much doubt going into any more depth here would have actually made for a better film.
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Jun 11th, 2005 11:19 AM |
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Prince Nauj
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Haven City
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This is my favorite part of the movie its very sad and emotional. I truly Enjoy that colorful planet with the big vergitation. Does anyone know what it is called?
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Jun 11th, 2005 01:01 PM |
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Commander Duck
The Expendable Jedi
Registered: May 2005
Location: The Dark Side A
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I think the clones knew exzactly the plan he was going to eventually commence. The were ready and waiting for that call.
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Jun 11th, 2005 11:08 PM |
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Sadako of Girth
Extreme Mode
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: McClane's Right one
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It all certainly makes Jango's going on at Obi-wan about "They'll do there job well" (AOTC) a tad more sinister in retrospect...!!
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Jun 12th, 2005 10:34 AM |
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Master Mawi
Jedi Master Assassin
Registered: Mar 2005
Location:
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Tragic, the deaths were. Ki-Adi Mundi's death was cool. His face clearly pictured desperation and surprise at the Clone Troopers' betrayal. Aayla's scene was good too. BUT PLO KOON'S JUST SUCKED. He was ducking in the cockpit right before the starfighter exploded. He looked scared like he wanted his mom or something. I mean COME ON, George Lucas could have Plo Koon kill a squad of Clone Troopers but finally get killed by a hundred of Clone Troopers.
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