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does anyone know how superman (or any character who is able to fly under their own power, for that matter) is able to fly faster? do they just lean forward more? point their arms at different angles? i must know!


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some people think it's graviton manipulation, so with will they can move faster


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does anyone know how superman (or any character who is able to fly under their own power, for that matter) is able to fly faster? do they just lean forward more? point their arms at different angles? i must know!


how do you run faster?

same principle i think...


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Hello all.

Would anyone be able to provide me with some links to scans of the Marvel mutant "Tempo" in action.

By "in action", I mean using her time powers to slow an opponent down or whatever.

Many thanks!


OK so I'm going to reiterate the above question, because I didn't get any answers last time, hopefully that was just because it got swiftly hidden by being at the bottom of the previous page.

But I also have another question:

Does anyone have the scan (or links to the scan) where the Mandarin brings a mountain to life in a fight with Iron Man?

Many thanks!


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some people think it's graviton manipulation, so with will they can move faster
their will affects gravity?

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how do you run faster?

same principle i think...
right but if i want to run faster i can move my legs faster to achieve greater speed. if you're flying it's not like you can 'push off' the ground to go faster.


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their will affects gravity?

right but if i want to run faster i can move my legs faster to achieve greater speed. if you're flying it's not like you can 'push off' the ground to go faster.


Ah, but how do you control the legs to move faster? How do you control a limb?

We understand via common knowledge how this is done, but can anyone really explain how you're able to manipulate our legs, and control the force behind each step, and somehow not mistake a leg for, say, an arm or a finger?

For fliers, it's probably no different then controlling any other voluntary function.

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Ah, but how do you control the legs to move faster? How do you control a limb?

We understand via common knowledge how this is done, but can anyone really explain how you're able to manipulate our legs, and control the force behind each step, and somehow not mistake a leg for, say, an arm or a finger?

For fliers, it's probably no different then controlling any other voluntary function.
i get the similarity you're trying to make. but comparing walking/running to flying is a poor example.

when you run, your brain is basically telling your legs and feet to start moving across the ground faster so that you, in turn, can move faster. but like i said, you still have a physical surface beneath you (the ground) which you keep pushing off of to increase your speed. when a flier wants to go faster, they have nothing solid around them that they can push off of to move faster. so how does it happen?

i understand it's a comic and things like this are moot, but i was just wondering if it has ever been described... cuz it really doesn't make sense.


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does anyone know how superman (or any character who is able to fly under their own power, for that matter) is able to fly faster? do they just lean forward more? point their arms at different angles? i must know!


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^ laughing out loud That is exactly what I though of when he asked that question.


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how powerful is thors hammer, mjollrin?

How powerful is it compared to other weapons in the marvel and DC universe? For comparisons sake, what does it compare to power wise (i.e. is it as powerful as green lanterns ring)?

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how powerful is thors hammer, mjollrin?

How powerful is it compared to other weapons in the marvel and DC universe? For comparisons sake, what does it compare to power wise (i.e. is it as powerful as green lanterns ring)?

thanks

Wtf is a mjollrin? You mean Mjolnir

I would put it on the same tier as Starheart

Mjolnir > regular lantern ring

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i know its not a completely comic book related question (though it could be i guess.) any way, within star wars mythos, what the best feat with the force that any character has preformed?

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i know its not a completely comic book related question (though it could be i guess.) any way, within star wars mythos, what the best feat with the force that any character has preformed?

thanks smile
There are a few possibilities...

1.) Palpatine creating a force storm (essentially a rip in time/space), that was capable of sundering an entire planet's surface, and decimating entire star fleets. Palpatine's control over this ability was also fine tuned enough that he could use a force storm to transport people/objects across galactic distances - Dark Empire.

2.) My personal favorite: Darth Vader utilizing his telekinesis to begin force-choking Xizor from tens of thousands of light years away (Vader was near Coruscant, and Xizor was on Tatooine.) What makes that feat even more impressive is that Vader was stated to be immensely holding back at the time, as to not show Palpatine what he was truly capable of - The Bounty Hunter Wars.

3.) If you take the narration at face value (which many don't), Darth Nihilus killed an entire planet's populace (billions of force sensitive beings) just by speaking - Star Wars Tales #24.

Those are the best ones I could think of.


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There are a few possibilities...

1.) Palpatine creating a force storm (essentially a rip in time/space), that was capable of sundering an entire planet's surface, and decimating entire star fleets. Palpatine's control over this ability was also fine tuned enough that he could use a force storm to transport people/objects across galactic distances - Dark Empire.

2.) My personal favorite: Darth Vader utilizing his telekinesis to begin force-choking Xizor from tens of thousands of light years away (Vader was near Coruscant, and Xizor was on Tatooine.) What makes that feat even more impressive is that Vader was stated to be immensely holding back at the time, as to not show Palpatine what he was truly capable of - The Bounty Hunter Wars.

3.) If you take the narration at face value (which many don't), Darth Nihilus killed an entire planet's populace (billions of force sensitive beings) just by speaking - Star Wars Tales #24.

Those are the best ones I could think of.
wow amazing. thanks!

one question though concerning #2. how do you know courscant and tatooine are "tens of thousands of lightyears" apart? does the comic say so?


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wow amazing. thanks!

one question though concerning #2. how do you know courscant and tatooine are "tens of thousands of lightyears" apart? does the comic say so?
That feat didn't occur in a comic, it occurred in a novel - but no, the novel did not outright say "Vader was 'x' light years away from Xizor." However, it did tell us which planet Vader was on, and which planet Xizor was on when the feat was preformed... And thanks to my level of nerdery, I just happen to have a map of the Star Wars galaxy on hand:

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(Coruscant and Tatooine are circled in red.)

As you can see, the planets are roughly half a galaxy apart. So "tens of thousands of light years" is pretty accurate, considering most galaxies are a few hundred thousand light years across. But like I mentioned before, the most impressive part of that feat isn't just that Vader was using his TK to force-choke Xizor across such gargantuan distances - it's that he was doing so while enormously holding back.

That feat makes Marvel/DC telekinetics like Nate Grey, God Cable, Maxima, Hector Hammond, Despero (etc, etc.) look like weak feebs.


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And thanks to my level of nerdery, I just happen to have a map of the Star Wars galaxy on hand:
laughing out loud

Although would it be a telekinesis feat? Because the force can be used throughout (at least) the star wars galaxy. So shouldn't someone of a high enough caliber (Vader) be able to use a force power from very far away?

I mean if he has sight to him he knows how to use the force power and where....just doesn't seem that incredible impressive to me.


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Although would it be a telekinesis feat? Because the force can be used throughout (at least) the star wars galaxy. So shouldn't someone of a high enough caliber (Vader) be able to use a force power from very far away?
Uh, yeah...?

(that was the point of my entire post.)

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I mean if he has sight to him he knows how to use the force power and where....just doesn't seem that incredible impressive to me.
If you know anything about Star Wars, then you know that distance tends to play a huge factor in a character's effectiveness with the force. For instance: in Labyrinth of Evil, even the great Mace Windu (one of the most powerful Jedi the order has ever seen) was described as being unable to affect General Grievous with the force - and at the time, GG was aboard his ship hovering a few thousand feet above the planet they were on.

So the fact that Vader was able to use the force in such a precise manner, across tens of thousands of light years, while holding back, is an insanely impressive TK feat - one that no other character has come close to equaling.


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As you can see, the planets are roughly half a galaxy apart. So "tens of thousands of light years" is pretty accurate, considering most galaxies are a few hundred thousand light years across. But like I mentioned before, the most impressive part of that feat isn't just that Vader was using his TK to force-choke Xizor across such gargantuan distances - it's that he was doing so while enormously holding back.


That feat makes Marvel/DC telekinetics like Nate Grey, God Cable, Maxima, Hector Hammond, Despero (etc, etc.) look like weak feebs. [/B]


Maxima's homeplanet, Almerac, is 100 trillion lightyears away from Earth according to Adam Strange. While on Earth, she coordinated an astral battle with a task force of her psychic disciples to take down Brainwave II. Not a TK feat, but still.

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