Oh, come on , rupert guy, dont be ridiculous. So spidey had organics with the dark costume a little time in the comics? Why not give him 6 arms? he had that once again in the comics? why dont give him the captain universe powers? he had it once in the comics. The fact that , circunstancially , he had it in the comics doesnt mean anything.
Yeah, lord of the rings and harry potter were great, 100 times better than the man spider movies.
That isnt the issue, of course that the godfather 3 wasnt the best, surely, but it wasnst any bad as you posted.
Yeah it just the money, many critics gave it an ok, but much more critics bashed it.
Episode 1 and 2 were excellent movies??? hahaha, please, those movies were garbage.
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For heaven's sake! I'm not a guy! And All I was pointing out is that Spider-Man WAS true to the comics because organic webbing was used before. Okay, so I guess you guys don't like Star Wars or something. But most people would disagree with that. And I didn't mean to use the word bad. I just meant it was the worst out of all the Godfathers. and that's not true about the critics. I checked. there are tons more critics who loved it.
You heard it from someone in the spiderman section who hates me and wants to make up lies is where you heard it from.Doc Ock who I know very well comes here everyday and posts and if that had happened he would have known about it and he will tell you that never happenend.what do you like just want to make all these posts and ask these questions to yourself and have a conversation with yourself? Yes and I stated what my problem was and why at that this point they might as well have mary jane become the black cat and a very polite and civilized manner and then you came on and attacked me after that,dont you recall the joker telling you to calm down,that I was only stating my opinion on that? probably not the way you forget things so easily.
see once again you prove you dont pay attention and cant remember things because I have stated countless of times to you why organics are stupid and why I hate them yet you keep asking the dsame damn question over and over again,you are completely imposible to be reasoned with because you cant remember the answers given to you.No I said most comicbook movies that are really good films dont do well at the box office, the hulk being an exception along with some others of a bad comicbook film that did not do well at the box office but you dont pay attention so I can see why you thought I said the hulk was a good movie.
and no he is not human anymore because he has mutated,before he was human because he had no mutations,now he has mutaed so he is a monster and a man-spider now.something you choose to live in denail about and will never accept though.
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Thanks for proving to everyone how you are one of those moviegoers who only cares about great special effects but not about a great story.The star wars prequels were overglossed with special effects with cheesy lines and bad story lines.The majority of star wars fans seem to agree from the posts you see in this site and at other star wars sites that since Empire strikes back,there had not been a good star wars film made until recently when Return of the sith came out.Most star wars fans agree that the prequels except for the sith,really suck.wow I can see why you are incapable of being reasoned with now if you call those movies great films.
Actually Bakerboy Rupert IS correct about that one point,she is female.But yeah those are great points.yeah so what if spidey had organics when he wore the symbiote costume at one time,thats like comparing apples with oranges anyways,but yeah according to that absurd logic,if were suppose to be okay with him having organic webbing since he had it at one point,then rupert should have no problem with him having 8 arms in the movie since he had it at one point. great point bakerboy.
Doc,please Ruperts short attention span she has is now starting to rub off on you now and become contagious. You know Im just joking with you right? But I say that because you didnt read my post very carefully because what I said was I asked the PARENTS of kids there that had kids wearing spiderman stuff if they saw the movie,the PARENTS would say yes,then I would ask the PARENTS how many times they saw the movie and they would say 4 or 5 times,then I said to them-Let me guess,you and your family went and saw it several times because your kid there wanted and begged you to take him back to see it right? and dozens of those PARENTS would say-Yeah you guessed it.
You know how I knew that was the case? because when that crappy Batman 89 came out,I knew several people from church ect who told me they didnt want to see the batman movie or that they liked it but they went and saw it several times with their kids because their kids begged them to take them back. so again that would be extremely naive to not think that that did not go on nationwide around the country especially since my predictions turned out to be true when I asked those parents if that was the reason they went back time and time again.
Now as far as Batman Begins is concerned,it wasnt near as successful as man-spider one and two were or batman 89 for that matter even though most batman fans and critics agree it was much better than batman 89 was.The reason Batman Begins did not make near as much money at the box office as Batman 89 did was because of TWO things.There had already been four Batman movies made prior to it so the novelty had worn off for the general moviegoing audience,the general moviegoer audience was not at all excited about going to the theaters and seeing Batman Begins because they could now just pop in the VCR and watch Batman on tv if they so desired since they already had four Batman movies to watch already.Back when Batman 89 came out,not just the fans but the gereral moviegoer audience as well was anxious and thrilled to see Batman on the screen since there had never been a Batman movie made before and although it did not take near as long for them to bring Batman 89 to the screen as it did with man-spider,it still did take them a long time to bring it to the screen because they had been talking about it for like 5 years before they finally went ahead and made it so the name alone made it a success just like the name spiderman alone assured the man-spider movie of being a success.
Two.Batman Begins also did poorly at the box office and not near as well as batman 89 because unlike Batman 89 and the Man-Spider movies,Batman Begins was poorly advertised and poorly marketed.I made a thread in the Batman section before Batman Begins came out voicing my concern that I did not think it would do very well at the box office because of how poorly it was being advertised and marketed. In Both cases with Batman 89 and the MAN-SPIDER movies,they were brilliantly marketed with year long advertising campaines.I remember when Batman 89 cmae out they had trailers for it a year before the movie came out with posters in theaters a year before the movie came out,same with the two man-spider movies.They had brillaint advertising and marketing campains that they knew with a popular character like they are,they would be a huge box office success.Why Batman Begins did not follow that same brilliant marketing strategy is beyond me and baffles me because by not doing that,they hurt themselves big time at the box office. Plus Batman Begins was made mostly for adults where Man-Spider was made mostly to appeal to kids,thats all sony cares about is money,they dont care about quality or getting a good quality director like Warner Brothers did with Nolan for Batman Begins.
you say look around here? did you notice on the first page on this thread that there were quite a few people who came on here on this thread who agreed with me that it should have ben called man-spider? Winddancer is just one person who came on the thread in the beginning on the first page who voiced that he agrees with me that the term man-spider fits him better,and quite a few others did on the first page.Did you miss that? He is just one of many people here that I know that agrees with me that the movie should have been called man-spider becauuse of the organics.They just dont post here in the spiderman section because I guess they just dont share the passion about the character as I do. 95% of the people at SHH are morons like DA CROWE AND DDRSKATA who go around and use profanity to people if they dont agree with you,that is why I keep telling you you should ditch that site forever.what the people at SHH say dont have any credibiltiy you know I am right on that? No why do you say I know you are right when I have spoken to countless of people over the years on THIS SITE and in real life who have told me they felt the same way about it and also the people i mentioned at that now closed down site NO ORGANIC WEBSHOOTERS.COM who I told you there were hundreds of them voicing their disgust over the organics?
you know I respect your opinions as well because unlike rupert you dont attack me for hating organics but thats a poor case you have made that its not split 50/50 down the middle doc.No offense taken I hope.
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Okay I just had to address all those posts first but now that I have addressed all those posts I will have a long detailed list of WHY the man-spider movies,especially the first one were so horribly written and had horrible story lines so get ready,you WILL get it sometime today.
You need to sort out your priorities. Sorry 'bout that. that's one of my favorite lines in Harry Potter. actually, I twisted it a bit. I know, I am a bit of a nerd. well, the only reason I'm arguing with you is because I disagree with you. And I liked all the Star Wars movies, except for Episode I, which I thought was the worst. And I don't like movies for their graphics! It's the storyline I look at, along with everything else! The graphics could be horrible, and I'd still love it. Does the fact that I've always loved the Indiana Jones movies say anything? Their graphics are corny, and they did that on purpose, because they didn't want to use any computer graphics! even when computer graphics came around! And it's always been one of my favorite movies of all time! What I liked about the Spider-Man movies is that the storyline was excellent, and I found it to be entertaining! Those are the two things I look for in a movie, that it has a great storyline and is, at the same time, entertaining! Now I'm tired of fighting, and if you'd FOR ONCE just take my advice, and just end the argument. Which I've been TRYING to do for a WHILE now! so if you stop arguing with me, I'll try not to bring it up again, even though I don't agree with you at all, but I guess you're titled to your opinion, even though it's a stupid one. and we both know we're not going to get eachother to agree, so let's just stop! Is it a deal?
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except man-spider one and two had horrible storylines and wasnt excellent. and since your now finally not asking the same questions over and over again for once and not giving a long insane rant for a change,then yes its a deal lets end the argument now.
I agree with that, but I'm not going to start arguing with him about it. let's just hope Mr.Parker doesn't start arguing with you, Superman 24. By the way, thanks for sticking up for me, during that whole argument.
What,where did you come up with that? I just said that a good storyline is very important to me.Thats what is first and foremost important to me about a movie is a good storyline and the man-spider movies did NOT have that.The thing that I totally hated about batman 89 the most was the horrible casting choice of Michael keaton as batman.There were more things that were wrong about that movie besides that which made me hate it,storywise it was horrible and that was a major reason why I hated it.But I hated it from the beginning and knew that I wouldl not be able to enjoy it because of Keaton being cast because he had the total wrong physical build for the role.Thats why when batman Begins came out,I was excited about it because Christian Bale unlike Keaton,at least physically fit the role of Bruce Wayne so I was excited that they might have finally made a good batman movie,but it wasn't just the great casting choice of Bale that made it a great movie,it had an excellent storyline to go along with it that it made it a great movie.The man-spider movies were horribly written and had horrible storylines,so the mechs alone being in that movie would not have been enough for me to enjoy it because it had a horrible screenplay.and stand by because I will pm you WHY it had a horrible screenplay and horrible storyline.
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Well, in my opinion, (and it seems to be S24's opinion, too) I thought it was a good storyline. if you didn't like it, then okay. so let's just leave it at that.
thats totally fine by me just so long as you now know it was MUCH MUCH more than just organics that ruined the movie for me,that the mechs being in the movie would never have been enough for me to like the film,that it was the weak storyline more than anything else,not the mechs that made me and others I know,despise the film.
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Yes and I stated what my problem was and why at that this point they might as well have mary jane become the black cat and a very polite and civilized manner and then you came on and attacked me after that,dont you recall the joker telling you to calm down,that I was only stating my opinion on that? probably not the way you forget things so easily.
But I say that because you didnt read my post very carefully because what I said was I asked the PARENTS of kids there that had kids wearing spiderman stuff if they saw the movie,the PARENTS would say yes,then I would ask the PARENTS how many times they saw the movie and they would say 4 or 5 times,then I said to them-Let me guess,you and your family went and saw it several times because your kid there wanted and begged you to take him back to see it right? and dozens of those PARENTS would say-Yeah you guessed it.
Plus Batman Begins was made mostly for adults where Man-Spider was made mostly to appeal to kids,thats all sony cares about is money,they dont care about quality or getting a good quality director like Warner Brothers did with Nolan for Batman Begins.
