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its illegal when you put your hands down a kids pants, or anyones pants for that matter. HE PLAYS WITH KIDS GENITALS! have you not seen or heard this?


I've heard it. I haven't seen it.

See where I'm going?

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I am a fan of the music he made yes. That's in no way influencial to my debate. If he's a child molester, he deserves the punishment of a child molester. However, suggesting that you're NOT gonna waste time sort of indicates that you could if you wanted to. So go for it. Don't let my rampant MJ fanboyism stop you roll eyes (sarcastic) .

OK... So was I... I hear you and yep... I could if I wanted to, but as you are NOT the center of my universe, I choose to get some sleep as its now 04:45am here.... Thank you very much...



You don't know that he is. I believe all you have to go by is dodgy, amnesia stricken witnesses and suspicion.

And the results of years of police recording and surveillance screened on UK tv by the investigators.... Which Jackson would've sued over had he been able to prove it false...



Because it's quite impossible that he actually wanted to spend platonic time with the children, right? He obviously wanted to get them in a vulnerable position.

Platonic: Not sleeping with young boys....

Paedophiles don't stalk people for years. Their mentality doesn't allow it. That's why so many paedophiles have multiple repeat offenses.

Oh yes they do.....

You requested that I don't put words in your mouth. Don't be a hypocrite and do the same to me. You're entitled to whatever you want, I'm entitled to spank your debate all over the room and I'll continue to do so as long as you keep talking tripe. Which you are entitled to do, and I am entitled to think.

Yes you have the right but not the capability.


I respect your right to an opinion, I have that same right. Watch me use it now:



Behind your back? What the Hell?

(Well you replied didn't ya... As no doubt you will with another smart-assed comment afetr im done.)

Back on Earth: People have been trying to nail Jackson for SOMETHING for years, it's no secret and it's well documented.

So yes, back out. Because you've clearly got nothing left. Except do the honourable thing and stop acting like you're doing it because you are fed up. Admit that you're doing it because you've got nothing to stand on or fall back on. (No I can recognise an impass when I see one)

Why would I do that when its simply not true, no matter how honourable...?

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I've heard it. I haven't seen it.

See where I'm going?

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Oh ok then, we'll get back to ya on this one when he does it to you or your relative..


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Bilb, if he did it to my relative I'd be prosecuting him. He hasn't, has he? Nor do I believe he did it anyway.

Shh.

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OK... So was I... I hear you and yep... I could if I wanted to, but as you are NOT the center of my universe, I choose to get some sleep as its now 04:45am here.... Thank you very much...


Besides being irrelevant, you really really upset me there. For real.

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And the results of years of police recording and surveillance screened on UK tv by the investigators.... Which Jackson would've sued over had he been able to prove it false...


You mean these years of surveillance that has proven him to be nothing but odd to many people? Or did I miss the meeting where they showed the mass child molestation tapes?

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Platonic: Not sleeping with young boys....


No. Platonic: No intercourse or acts of a sexual nature. If he didn't do anything like that, and JUST slept. It's platonic. Shh.

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Oh yes they do.....


Go on...

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Yes you have the right but not the capability.


Ooooh, look at Reverend Slick over here. We'll get back on topic soon.

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Well you replied didn't ya... As no doubt you will with another smart-assed comment afetr im done.)


I've never spoke about anyone behind their back nor would I even bother to do something of such pathetic nature on a forum. Don't flatter yourself.

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Why would I do that when its simply not true, no matter how honourable...?


Well, besides the fact that you're getting spanked and as proof, just posted a load of off topic nonsense against me, which I countered still, I'd say you've run the old gas tank down to it's last drops.

And unlike Maxwell House, you aint good for it.

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Arrange that into some kind of readable post and I will reply to everything you said in it. All I see is one giant quote with loads of little additions.

Bilb, if he did it to my relative I'd be prosecuting him. He hasn't, has he? Nor do I believe he did it anyway.

Shh.

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Well darlin LOTS of lloks including this kids relatives believe he DID do it so by your rationale this trial is totally justified


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Of course that kids relatives believe he did it. I expect no less.

If I was on trial for killing your brother and I didn't do it, but alot of media suggested I did, I doubt you'd be looking to be impartial. You'd be going with the flow and you too would be blinded by personal bias.

Try again sweetcheeks.

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All i meant was that its rather narrowminded to only want to see those who personally hurt only you prosecuted. Last I checked the laws were not written for AC alone..

Sweetcheeks.. awwwww embarrasment


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*Yawns* It WAS relevant as you said that the only reason I am going is because I couldn't counter argue....

"Besides being irrelevant, you really really upset me there. For real."

Well sorry about that, 1) Not my intention
2) You have insulted me with worse during the course of of this discussion...

"You mean these years of surveillance that has proven him to be nothing but odd to many people? Or did I miss the meeting where they showed the mass child molestation tapes?"

Testimony was pretty damning and phone records and stuff... I'll upload you it when its repeated...

"No. Platonic: No intercourse or acts of a sexual nature. If he didn't do anything like that, and JUST slept. It's platonic. Shh."

Well, maybe he should try "Platonically sleeping" with adults for a change... He wouldn't leave himself open to this shit, would he?


"Ooooh, look at Reverend Slick over here. We'll get back on topic soon."

Oh so when you run of at the mouth unnecessarily at ME its NOT off topic..... Ahhh... Thanks for clearing that up...

"I've never spoke about anyone behind their back nor would I even bother to do something of such pathetic nature on a forum. Don't flatter yourself."

The virtue of 2 backstabs/replies to/at me in my abscence would suggest otherwise...And thank you... I AM flattered....

"Well, besides the fact that you're getting spanked and as proof, just posted a load of off topic nonsense against me, which I countered still, I'd say you've run the old gas tank down to it's last drops.

And unlike Maxwell House, you aint good for it."

It was totally on the topic you shoved under my nose all evening, there have been no spankings here, just a waste of your time and mine...
Ahhhhhhhhh well.... Good night AC.....


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"Because it's quite impossible that he actually wanted to spend platonic time with the children, right? He obviously wanted to get them in a vulnerable position."

You mean, like, alone, in his bedroom? Yeah, seems to be the case. Doesn't get much more vulnerable then that.


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*Yawns* It WAS relevant as you said that the only reason I am going is because I couldn't counter argue....


I said you've got nothing of relevance left. Your last post, this post too, prove that smile.

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*Well sorry about that, 1) Not my intention
2) You have insulted me with worse during the course of of this discussion...


I was joking and no, I haven't. I don't insult people here, people take things as insults. You're all far too sensitive. Fair weather debaters. Good to go when it suits you, complaining when it doesn't.

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Testimony was pretty damning and phone records and stuff... I'll upload you it when its repeated...


Lovely stuff.

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Well, maybe he should try "Platonically sleeping" with adults for a change... He wouldn't leave himself open to this shit, would he?


I've said in this thread many times, while he believes there's nothing wrong with JUST sleeping in the same bed (there isn't), it wasn't the best move for him to admit it. He did bring alot of bad shit onto himself by openly admitting that. However, if that IS all he did, he hasn't got anything to worry about. Because he's breaking no law.

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*Oh so when you run of at the mouth unnecessarily at ME its NOT off topic..... Ahhh... Thanks for clearing that up...


It was on topic within the context of your post, then I got back on topic. I really am good.

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The virtue of 2 backstabs/replies to/at me in my abscence would suggest otherwise...And thank you... I AM flattered....


I love the way people here really praise me then complain that I'm big-headed.

Maybe you wanna show me these "backstabs". I don't see why you're taking this so personal.

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It was totally on the topic you shoved under my nose all evening, there have been no spankings here, just a waste of your time and mine...
Ahhhhhhhhh well.... Good night AC.....


What in the Hell are you talking about? Did someone urinate in your Raisin Bran homie?

Quit taking things so personally. I'm really unsure as to what I've said that's reduced you to near tears.

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You mean, like, alone, in his bedroom? Yeah, seems to be the case. Doesn't get much more vulnerable then that.


Read the part I replied to before taking me intentionally out of context.

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But you make it so easy with your wording.

Besides, I read it, still, looks like he wanted them in a vulnerable position. Nothing is more vulnerable then alone in an adults bedroom for the night.


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Tears of laughter.... "I too was joking in that case...."

Well check the parts of your posts I pulled you up on (Or "Spanked" you on, as you are so fond of putting it....) wink

"I said you've got nothing of relevance left. Your last post, this post too, prove that ."

Well can I help it if you are so blind to the stark relevency throughout my and other's posts....?
No sense in banging you head against a brick wall...
We clearly have different opinions as I have said... Im not your teacher,
so why bother to teach....? No point is there?

Seriously though... Peace... Goodnight... I hope you are right... I really do...


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But you make it so easy with your wording.

Besides, I read it, still, looks like he wanted them in a vulnerable position. Nothing is more vulnerable then alone in an adults bedroom for the night.


All in the interpretation jack.

Wanting them in one and them being in one are two different things. Them being in one and him taking advantage and them being in one and him not taking advantage are also different.

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Tears of laughter.... "I too was joking in that case...."

Well check the parts of your posts I pulled you up on (Or "Spanked" you on, as you are so fond of putting it....)


No seriously. Why don't you show me, because I've read all your posts. You've not 'spanked' me on anything. I've quoted you each and every post you've made. Nope, no spanking.

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Well can I help it if you are so blind to the stark relevency throughout my and other's posts....?


Ohhh the old "Let's make it seem like he's doing it to everyone else as well" trick. Quite good if it works. PVS and KharmaDog, the two people I have encountered repeatedly on this thread. We don't agree and I don't think KharmaDog likes me too much, but I see where they come from, they do the same. Don't try to reel others into this just because you are the one making not one shred of sense. As proven, your last couple of posts haven't really referred to the thread. Because you've obviously got nothing left to say.

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No sense in banging you head against a brick wall...
We clearly have different opinions as I have said... Im not your teacher,
so why bother to teach....? No point is there?


Why are you continually making fruitless excuses for your lack of material? Shame.

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Seriously though... Peace... Goodnight... I hope you are right... I really do...


Why? If he's found guilty do you seriously think it bothers me? If he's guilty then he deserves what he gets, justice, hopefully. As it stands, I've not seen anything that makes me believe he is guilty of child molestation.

I really would love to jump aboard the conclusions boat, but you know me, crazy ol' AC.

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All i meant was that its rather narrowminded to only want to see those who personally hurt only you prosecuted. Last I checked the laws were not written for AC alone..

Sweetcheeks.. awwwww embarrasment


Yeah, and when did I say that those who only affect me should be prosecuted? Somewhere or nowhere?

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Just seemed to be the way your argument was headed,, just cut you off at the pass.. stick out tongue


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I've never known any paedophile to be a nice guy to kids for years and years.


Paedophiles often groom victims, parents and situations to make their task easier and to feel out perspective opportunities. This is well documented behaviour. They often are friends, family members or close associates of the victim who build up levels of trust or dependence in order that they may guilt and obligation on their victim. For kids guilt and obligations to people they love are respect are highly motivating factors.

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They usually do the whole kidnapping, usually murder thing.[/B]


This so so far from fact that I can't believe you typed it. Although that does happen, generally it is a paedophile with additional mental problems that resorts to kidnapping and murder.

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They don't lavish them with gifts, shelter and friendship.......WITH the parents. [/B]


Once again this is common behaviour. I recommend that you read some psychological and criminology papers and studies regarding this subject.

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Paedophiles don't stalk people for years. Their mentality doesn't allow it. That's why so many paedophiles have multiple repeat offenses.


Paedophiles often stalk children for years, repeating offences over long periods of time. You are generalizing WAY too much. MJ is also accused of repeated offences on multiple victims.

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Well, besides the fact that you're getting spanked and as proof, just posted a load of off topic nonsense against me, which I countered still, I'd say you've run the old gas tank down to it's last drops.


Is it so important to you to feel as though you have "spanked" someone in a debate? I have seen you make that comment in different threads. What's worse is often you make that statement and it isn't true. Make your point and move one, I'm sure if someone sees that you have "spanked" someone else they will make a comment (as they often do). Save the victory dances for other venues, it is embarrassing to see here and often belittles any good point you have previously made.

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I was joking and no, I haven't. I don't insult people here, people take things as insults. You're all far too sensitive. Fair weather debaters. Good to go when it suits you, complaining when it doesn't.


Actually, whether you are aware of it or not, you do insult people. Snide remarks and jokes at the expense of others are insults. We all resort to insults at one point or another, be mature enough to realize that you do the same.

Now let's all stop the bickering and posing and get back on topic.


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Actually, whether you are aware of it or not, you do insult people. Snide remarks and jokes at the expense of others are insults. We all resort to insults at one point or another, be mature enough to realize that you do the same.


just give it up kharma. i tried to explain this time and time again, and it fell on deaf ears...well...blind eyes in this situation.

and as far as being 'spanked'....well need i go on about that?
kinda reminds me of 'you got served' laughing out loud

yeah!!!! you like that!?!?!? lets see you top these moves! yeah!!! you dont want none of this!!!!

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