Registered: Mar 2005
Location: In "Devil May Cry" movie
Look at my posts, I am not antagonistic and may have falsely assumed that you were. That WTF changes the connotation of a conversation sometimes.
But in response, WHY did Obi-Wans and Yodas spirite age? Just because someone makes bad decisions, doesnt mean that their spirit will "pause" until they die...
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Hunting Big Bad with Dean
I agree, perhaps it would have been better to have all of them as they appeared in the prequels. The only reasoning I can see for them to show the younger Anakin is under the assumption that Anakin "died" when he became Vader (even though he came back at the end of ROTJ).
Their spirits didn't age. They did. That's what I said in my first big post. They looked as they did when they died. Now, so does Anakin in GL's eyes/mind/story. Anakin died in Episode 3 as far as Lucas is concerned.
I asked how a dormant spirit would age. I was referring to the dormant spirit of Anakin Skywalker that was trapped within Darth Vader.
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: In "Devil May Cry" movie
YES!!! Changing all of them would have been a cool nod to the prequels, as if Anakins redemption helped ALL of them!!
Let me restate that I initially thought "wow! cool!" at the change, and understand from the point of view that we have a connection to Haydens Ani, and not Sebastion Shaws, but I don't by that his spirit was "on hold" for 20 some odd years. In fact, I think the epiphany that he has at the end of ROTJ puts him at the most focused point of his life.
Maybe an age-progression shot of Hayden would have worked perfectly....
But my question is (i know I've already posted it) how did he learn the path to immortality? Furthermore, Hayden should learn how to smile... it looks evil to me.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Hunting Big Bad with Dean
Good points all, and I agree that the shots they used of Hayden weren't the greatest. I really loved his smile when he tells Padme "I'm allright" after coming back from killing Dooku, but it was an adoring smile, not something that would have fit the spirit scene.
Lucas disagrees. That's why he did what's caused this discussion in the first place. I'm not saying it wouldn't make sense if it remained unchanged or anything. But the fact is that once he established the PT, this is what the man who decides what is in Star Wars is saying. Everybody can have theories & their own explanations for whatever saga monets they see fit, but as the saga stands now, the man who created it says that Anakin's redeemed spirit is the one that died when he turned to the dark side, which does fall in line to what Obi-Wan told Luke in ROTJ. It's just that now we have the visual representation of that man who "ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader" and GL has shown us that he becomes that man once again when he joins the force.
Hmmmm how about that? Maybe he wasn't fully redeemed until the life left his body, eh? That could work as an explanation of why Sebastian Shaw is in the suit & Hayden Christensen is now the spirit. I'm not sayi9ng this is my feeling or theory or whatever because it's not necessary. Like I said, everyone can have their own theories about why things are the way they are, but what you can't dispute is what GL gives us as fact. He sticks Hayden's head on the Shaw-spirit body, so that makes it fact in the saga.
I agree. In Lucas's mind Anakin did die in Episode III. Although I think that in Jedi Anakin is redeemed and returns to the good side... But I have to respect Lucas's vision of the story - it is afterall [i]his story. If it were mine, perhaps I'd do it differently...
I think they should have put him closer to the others. Yoda and Obi look like they were stuck together, whereas Anakin is about one step away. I still think George should have put two versions on DVD, 'cause the future generations will never be able to see the movies how we loved them and made them a cult in the first place.
However, talking for myself, I'd have to say that scene makes much sense now, I like it a lot.
I think it was just a way for Lucas to tie the two trilogies together. But I do agree that the Jedi Anakin Skywalker died on Mustafar, so it does make sense for his Jedi ghost to be shown at that age.
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In the future when new generations are watching all six movies in sequence they'll only want to see Hayden at the end. If they hadn't changed it then people would be disappointed at the appearance of some old guy.
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Jun 24th, 2005 02:04 AM
could you have imagined that! that would've been horrid. i'm glad they picked anakin 
