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I think it's kinda tacky. I just would of much rather seen Darth Vader cast off the shackles of the dark side and return as the redeemed Anakin.
I could see Whatshisname McYoungVersion Hayden whatever being more in place if like evil being slain and the Jedi returning rejuvenated them into younger versions of themselves.
Hopefully after seeing old man obi, the future generations will have grasp on the concept of "aging" and it's effect on people.
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I think having Anakin in ROTJ connects the entire saga better. its better having young Anakin because that was when it was at a time where he was still good, so it kinda implys that Anakin went back to his old self once Luke saved him.
Plus having Anakin's force ghost when he was young, meant more than having the old guy look where we only see one scene showing him, and Anakin had the entire PT. So, I think it was a wise decision by Lucas
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Hayden at the end of ROTJ didn't bother me either. I had a hard time associating the old man who was there originally with Anakin/Vader. But all of us recognize Hayden,makes it easier and helps continuity.
Registered: Jun 2005
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I don't want to add fuel to the fire but I think young Anakin was a bad change. He was never at peace when he was young if you think about it. He always had something bothering him and something evil deep down inside of him. By showing old Anakin we see Anakin "saved" from the dark side as his content self. Luke helped him kill the evil in him and bring out the good and he was turned completely back to the good side. So when we see old Anakin he is with the other jedi masters at the end old when they passed and "became one with the force" showing young Anakin is like if they showed Ewan McGregor for Obi-wan Kenobi! Old Anakin was the only Anakin to ever truly be at peace.
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That's where you lose me. That change would make much less sense, so it's not like the Anakin change at all. You can explain why Anakin's spirit appears that way. How would you possibly explain how Obi-Wan's spirit that we've seen as Alec Guiness has suddenly changed to Ewan McGregor? See what i'm getting at here? I'm not asking you to explain that change. I'm saying that there is a valid, official explanation of how Anakin's spirit first appears & looks like Hayden, but if they changed Alec to Ewan for the end scene, that would make no sense at all. My point is that your comparing young Anakin to a possible young Ewan weakens your point. Take that out & you've got a stronger argument.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts, United States
Are you saying that Hayden isnt so bad because we never really see Anakin in any other form?
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts, United States
I see what you mean about my arguement. Think about this: they show obi wan die old, the show his spirit old, they show anakin die old, they show his spirit young????? i think its retarded
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And that's cool. I'll never tell anyone that they should or shouldn't like anything. Like what you want to. But you should also understand that George Lucas says that Anakin died when he became Darth Vader in what is now Episode III, and Anakin seems fully redeemed once he joins the force & appears next to Obi-Wan & Yoda in the same visual form that he died in.
Also, I think Mr. Lucas might have changed this scene because becoming one with the force was Anakin's big reward for turning back. I mean, he goes through most of his life in a black mask barely alive. It makes the situation look like Anakin's reward was to get to be the ghost of a shriveled old man. The force changes him back to how he was the last time he was in tune with the light side. Both Yoda and Obi-Wan never turned. You could look at it from the point of view that once you turn to the Dark Side you are no longer in view or in the presence of the living force. So that was how the force last remembers him. You will find that many of the truths we cling to rely greatly on our own point of view.
It really suck and its offensive for the old fans, (which im not, but that doesnt matter) to put christensen en basically the only anakin scene in all the original trilogy.
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I can see how people would think that, but the old Anakin just wasn't in the movie long enough for me to be offended at him being cut out of the scene.
Jun 24th, 2005 12:21 PM
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