hes an old geezers, thats what i hate about actors(most actors) they all need godamned stunt doubles. If i were an actor personally i'd attempt to my own stunts(if its not over the top)
I've heard no official explanation for that error. One can only guess at why it happened. I figure they tried different things in the scene & one included a saber switch, and they liked the shots where the sabers were switched the best so they used them. I know they knew about it before the movie came out because someone asked Rick McCallum about it from the trailer & he commended them on spotting it. Still, I guess they thought it wasn't a big deal & left it in. Obviously, a lot of fans thought it was a big deal.
This is frigin stupid, you are not suppose to watch a movie frame by frame LOSERS, For the normal fan the movie makers know they can get away with it. Like in EPI during the pod race, Rob coleman said at one scene Sebulba is not in his pod racer, but it is only for a split second and they new they could get away with it. same goes for the different lightsabers, How do you guys enjoy the movie looking for these dumb and pointless flaws?? as for Leia's conversation with Luke, it's quite simple, Bail must of obviously told Liea about her REAL Mother. and she had pictures of her, and that is where the memories come from, where as Luke would not of been told anything about her. And Obiwan never said that their mother separated them, the line is "to protect you both from the emperor, you were hidden from your father when you were born."
These kinds of mistakes do not bother me in the slightest.
We all know that wasn't Ian doing all those amazing things, so what does this prove anyway?
The only time I ever really saw anything wrong with the actors on screen was when the heroes crash land Grievous' ship, and there's a short shot which lingers on the actors long enough to tell that they are CGI. That to me was the only shot I thought that they didn't away with.
Also, I don't tend to watch movies frame by frame. I mean, come on.
There was a weird shot of palpatine at the beginning of the Yoda duel... it looked really fake. It may have been a CG Ian, I can't be sure though. It just looked strange...
Maybe when Leia says her mom was beautiful but sad, she was talking about B. Organa's wife (ha! his initials are B.O! sorry, random thought...), i mean she was pretty, and maybe not as sad as Padme, but the whole new empire thing must have made her pretty upset... unless... i'm missing somthing, aren't i?
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I thought about that too. Not knowing anything outside of what was in the movies, the only thing that I could think of is that Bale (sp?) Organa's wife died and he later remarried.
Oh you better not be dissing me bud... i was only posting those pics to get all the "real geeks" pissed..... And these errors dont bug me either.... i still like the whole sequence.... my fav fight
It amazes me how people can take one thing out of context and miss the point completely:
ROTJ
LUKE: "Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?"
LEIA: "Just a little bit. She died when I was very young."
LUKE: "What do you remember?"
LEIA: "Just...images, really. Feelings."
LUKE: "Tell me."
LEIA: "She was very beautiful. Kind, but...sad. Why are you asking me all this?"
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LEIA: "Luke, don't talk that way. You have a power I--I don't understand and could never have."
LUKE: "You're wrong, Leia. You have that power too."
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LUKE: "Yes. It's you Leia."
LEIA: "I know. Somehow...I've always known."
So, first things first - Luke is definitely asking Leia about her real mother (Padmé) in ROTJ.
Now, in ROTS
Padmé dies when Leia is very young.
Padmé is certainly beautiful and kind, and by the end of ROTS has much to be sad about.
And it is established, later to be reiterated in the OT, that the Force runs strong in the Skywalker family.
Look at the greater context of that scene in ROTJ - what is it about?
One of the things it addresses is that very aspect of the Skywalker family - the Force runs strong in that family. The family is important.
Leia has these images and feelings regarding her mother.
She also somehow always felt that Luke was her brother - SOMEHOW she's always known.
It is just to show that Leia is blessed by the Force too, it isn't a big thing.
Leia is the missing part of the puzzle.
What Luke doesn't have (memories of his biological mother) Leia has.
What is going to get Luke to do what he has to do and redeem his father?
His love for his sister - we see it on the Death Star.
Everything is there - nothing contradicts anything.
The facts match up.
You accept that people can move things around with telekinesis.
You accept that people can generate lethal electricity with their fingertips.
You accept that people can leap hundreds of feet in the air from a standstill.
You accept that people can detect suffering and pain across the other side of the galaxy; see into the future.
Yet you cannot accept that Leia - who is strong with the Force - SOMEHOW has a residual image of her mother.
A mother who dies uttering the words "There's still good in him."
The Force must be brought into balance - only Anakin can do this.
He must be redeemed.
This is Padmé's last meassage - it is all part of that same puzzle.
The will of the Force.
Leia has her part.
Luke has his.
They have to work together.
Everyone has to work together, everyone has a different part of the puzzle.
So Leia remembers (although "remembers" is a misleading word to use) her mother.
Luke does not.
Big deal.
It all makes sense when you look at the bigger picture.
If you want to continue to look for contradictions, then you will definitely see them.
But the answers are there.
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Seriously though I agree with what you said mossman. I don't have a problem with it. I think it would have been better though if Leia and Padme had had a little 'moment' in ROTS rather than Luke and Padme...
Leia was in her longer than Luke.
It must be that Bail and his wife told her about Padme and that she die just after her birth, and Owen would not be able to tell Luke anything about Padme.