Not atall, theres a statue of Abe Lincoln, does that mean that Americans worship him? Or is it just a mark of respect and a focal point for people to go and pay said respects.
Because your not exonerating them as God, your not praising them, your simply asking for the saint to pray to God for you, not to have the saint do something for them.
Take a Look at the rosary for example.
Here, God (Father,) is worshipped, he is declared the master of Heaven and Earth but more importantly he is asked to shed grace on the person delivering the prayer and keep them from the path of evil.
Once again God (this time the Son) is being asked to shed grace on the person who is praying.
Mary is hailed as being an important and holy person, but note that she is full of grace, this means she has received the forgiveness of God. Note she isn't being asked to save the person praying from sin, hell or evil but simply to pray for them (a pray which would go to God)
Well anyway Christians suck for suppressing other religons so I dont care who you worhsip really. So dont make any difference to me. Maybe id argue some more but I just dont care enough.
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If a religion doesn't try to put itself above other religions, then it shows that its leadership either doesn't care about the general peoples OR they no they aren't the true religion.
Last edited by Grand-Moff-Gav on Jul 16th, 2007 at 09:29 AM
Here is the story of Genesis, we all know the story about the Snake and Eve but, who was this snake? If he was a snake at all. (I wonder what JIA would make of this...)
The Bible elsewhere identifies Satan with the serpent in this story. In Revelation 12:9 and 20:2, he is called "that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan." Did he appear to Eve in the form of a talking snake? Probably not.
The Hebrew word translated "serpent" in the above passage is nachash. In addition to "serpent," this Hebrew root word has three other possible meanings. It can be used as a noun to mean (1) "one who practices divination," or (2) "shining brass." However, nachash can also be used as a verb to mean (3) "to shine" or "to glow."
In Genesis 3, it is possible that nachash is used in the verbal form as a noun. If that is the case, the proper translation of hanachash in Genesis 3 would be "the Shining one." This understanding of nachash fits in very well with Paul's description of Satan appearing as an "angel of light" (II Cor. 11:14).
So, it may not have been a serpant but instead the Shining One, or rather, Lucifer who led to the downfall of man.
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Last edited by Grand-Moff-Gav on Jul 16th, 2007 at 09:32 AM
Thats crap. What it means is they are at peace with their religion and dont feel they have they need to opress other people.
Thats the thing about you abrahimics you just cant possibly concieve the concept of co-existance its just beyond you. I like Heathensim but why the hell would I want everbody to becaome Heathen diversity is a good thing. Hell it would be cool to hang out with heathens and then go to a Tibetan monstary to chill with some monks.
So in other words you think it was ok for the Christians to impose Christainity on the Norse people.
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What the hell do you mean they were forced to accept Christanity!! People were tortured and killed how does Christanity possibly give them something the Norse religon cant?
Too pissed of to care.
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