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many dont have tail at all, and monkeys from the same speiecies do not all look the same at all, if you spen time with a group you learn to see the diffrences, just as if you have identical twins, to the common man they look exactly the same. But for them who spend time with them learn to see difrences. The fact that we humans were able to walk upright on two feet is one of the answeres why we became suprerior ones of the primates, higher intelligence is another reason. And dint underestimate the intelligent of the monkeys though, they are way smarter than we really think, and through study we starting to learn that
many humans are very hairy indeed, and as you claim with the monkeys we human think certain races look alike, and there are plenty of humans that would be considered far from very intelligent

because they are two different speieces within the primate group , and (hopefully) they breed with the other humans to extend their genetic line, just as the monkeys breed with their own to extend their line. It would be just as asking why doesnt sheep dogs who spend their entire life watching and herding sheep bleat instead of bark


what a load of crap, this is nothing but pure ignorance

these are your reasons and I hope you aint so ignorant and arrogant that you think your way is the only way


"and there are plenty of humans that would be considered far from very intelligent"
And you thought I was ignorant? What humans think of other humans ain't got nothing to do with nothing, they might not be 'considered' to be smart by you or i, yet they're smarter than any monkey.

"these are your reasons and I hope you aint so ignorant and arrogant that you think your way is the only way"
What? I'M ignorant? How can a Muslim god and Jesus Christ even exist in the same zones? One way must be the only way, it's impossible for what you think and what I think to exist in the same zones. God or No God there can't be yours AND mine.

"just as asking why doesnt sheep dogs who spend their entire life watching and herding sheep bleat instead of bark"
Wait a minute, dogs and sheep aren't even the same type of creature, but according to you Humans are primates just like Apes. So how'd the human primates race begin then eh? You are saying evolution doesn't exist. If we are just different Primates, how'd some other monkey in the past breed to make us? There is nothing it could have breeded with to make a human. This is purely going my way here.

Evolution obviously ain't real, it was only a theory with no proof or nothin. And no proof has been gained since.

"and (hopefully) they breed with the other humans to extend their genetic line,"
Yeah, yet how'd evolution supposed to have ever happened without the very slightly evolved person having to breed?

"The fact that we humans were able to walk upright on two feet is one of the answeres why we became suprerior ones of the primates, higher intelligence is another reason. And dint underestimate the intelligent of the monkeys though, they are way smarter than we really think, and through study we starting to learn that
many humans are very hairy indeed, and as you claim with the monkeys we human think certain races look alike"
Humans don't have long hair though, all mammals have atleast tiny hairs, but why count those?

If you shaved the mane off a Lion and dyed his/hers fur exactly like a tigers, then she/he would be like a Tiger.

If you changed the colour of a Bears fur to white, made his/hers fur longer, he/she'd be a Polar bear.

If you covered a human in average sized fur, stuck his/hers mouth out, made him/her lean down on his/hers hands, gave him/her a monkeys brain, made it so the person can only lean down, changed his/hers voice box to a monkeys and changed his/hers teeth so 2 are pointy. Then he/she'd be a monkey.

See the difference? No other animal has supposedly evolved as much as us, why? Even if they are just different types of that creature, they're still more alike with each other than me and your average monkey.
And out of all the animals in the world, we are the only ones who are smart enough to actually make things, Doesn't it make you feel like there's a purpose to life instead of thinking so lowly of life?

Oh, by the way, the only humans with fur the length of monkeys/apes are ones with a curtain disease.

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Sort of, yet no. When you don't believe in a god you're technically thinking that it's ok to do those sort of things. I mean, if there was no god what is the point of living? No God=No point to Universe=No point to life. If the universe was just pot luck then we aren't important, if we aren't important as people why should you care about our feelings? And why should we care about yours? Delinquishing all the things that we see as good, love(who cares?), kindness(What's the point?), generousness(It'll make no difference to MY life), and all the others too.


Not true......there is meaning....maybe you're looking in the wrong place...I am all those wonderful qualities and more.....It doesn't matter what you believe...it's what you are.....are you this kind of person, or that......

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oh really you have posted a load of swada but no answers

meaning to the universe is just to be, so it is with life, meaning is to live it
you assume I believe you, for all I know you can be called Tommy and be blind deaf and dumb and if what you put here is a so called answer it is a really really weak ass answer

guess both of us posting here takes care of that "riddle"

and 98 % of the DNA

they look the same to us, not to a monkey

because of a moral code that have existed longer than that of the biblical ones like the code of Hammurabi, dont ever think that the biblical ones were the "first" moral laws out there


"oh really you have posted a load of swada but no answers"
You clearly don't have a clue with this one laughing every question you have asked I have answered, and I have proved you wrong on many occasions including this one, you just won't listen to me and won't give up and believe. What's so wrong in a god anyway? Atleast then if you believed you'd be protected incase i am right. But if you don't and i'm right you'd probably go to hell. Do you think it would prevent you from having fun? I have fun and i believe.

"meaning to the universe is just to be, so it is with life, meaning is to live it
you assume I believe you, for all I know you can be called Tommy and be blind deaf and dumb and if what you put here is a so called answer it is a really really weak ass answer"
Lol, So you don't care about me? You'd just kill me and not care? It doesn't matter, I ain't there for any specific reason, so what's the point in life if there's no specific reason for it to be there? It doesn't matter, i'd be too blind, deaf and dumb to make any difference in the world, no point in me.

"and 98 % of the DNA"
How'd we even know the scientists are even telling the truth? They probably don't want to believe in a god for the same reason you don't, because they think it'd change our and their life.
Another thing, how can we be so different to them if we share most of the same DNA? DNA has all the information of WHAT SOMEONE LOOKS LIKE, eye colour, hair colour, amount of arms or legs one has, gender etc. So howcome we look so different to them then when most of our DNA is the same? Clearly a fake. (http://www.thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=18)

"they look the same to us, not to a monkey"
How'd you know? Got any specific reason why our facial features are so easy to see when theirs must be really small? If we can't see them, neither can they. You are clearly stalling on this one, this is clearly not a true statement.

"because of a moral code that have existed longer than that of the biblical ones like the code of Hammurabi, dont ever think that the biblical ones were the "first" moral laws out there"
That happened in 1795, so it ain't ancient.
(http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/hamcode.html)
The thing is, Jewish religion was there before that, which is what Christianity cam from, but we Christians noticed the Jews error in their belief so we became a different religion.

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Not true......there is meaning....maybe you're looking in the wrong place...I am all those wonderful qualities and more.....It doesn't matter what you believe...it's what you are.....are you this kind of person, or that......


Who are we then if there is no reason to be anybody? What is the point of a future if there is no point in the past? All scientists do is pull the human race down, all they do is Lie so people think things how they want them to, they say there's more life which, for some reason, is most likely to be smarter than us. We came from one of the most stupid creatures on earth, it's all a lie, a big fat lie.

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You know, the only animals scientists are testing are US, the human race, testing if we can really be fooled easily enough to think lowly of ourselves, and you know what? It's working, cos nobody even thinks about it, and nobody looks towards the good side of the human race!

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Originally posted by Chibi Boy
Who are we then if there is no reason to be anybody? What is the point of a future if there is no point in the past? All scientists do is pull the human race down, all they do is Lie so people think things how they want them to, they say there's more life which, for some reason, is most likely to be smarter than us. We came from one of the most stupid creatures on earth, it's all a lie, a big fat lie.


Whether we evolve from something or not does not change anything at all in my book....

And who are we????? We are spirit in a bag of skin that is only temporary....It doesn't matter what any person says as long as YOU know what you are.

And about stupid apes.........I also know some stupid people.....I see dumb people ALL THE TIME... cool

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Who are we then if there is no reason to be anybody? What is the point of a future if there is no point in the past? All scientists do is pull the human race down, all they do is Lie so people think things how they want them to, they say there's more life which, for some reason, is most likely to be smarter than us. We came from one of the most stupid creatures on earth, it's all a lie, a big fat lie.


Monkeys will be really sad, if they knew that you think so lowly of them. sad They are living beings too. Why should we be more important than any other race ?

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Because God put humans as the crown creation of the world.


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Yea... but that in the humanīs bible, if monkeys had their own bible, they will put them as the crown creation of the world. Not that they donīt have one !


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yeah, I wonder if their bible would be made out of bananas?


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yeah, I wonder if their bible would be made out of bananas?


No, its not a good material.

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Because God put humans as the crown creation of the world.


But, seriously. That .... is like that, just because it is a human religion, if you understand what I mean.

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Whether we evolve from something or not does not change anything at all in my book....

And who are we????? We are spirit in a bag of skin that is only temporary....It doesn't matter what any person says as long as YOU know what you are.

And about stupid apes.........I also know some stupid people.....I see dumb people ALL THE TIME... cool


So you say there is a soul then? That's true, because thats true, there is a god, because there's a god there is a meaning to the universe cos God made it.

The thing is, god didn't make people as being anything to do with apes, so there can't be a god if we came from Apes, so the universe had no point if we came from Apes, so there is no point to having a soul if we came from apes, so no point to life if we don't have a soul.

So i know I have a soul, If we all have souls there is a point to life, if there is a point to life there's a point to the universe = God

I see your point completely though.

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Monkeys will be really sad, if they knew that you think so lowly of them. sad They are living beings too. Why should we be more important than any other race ?

We should be more important cos we happen to be the only ones who can dominate the world, or count, or comunicate completely with thousands of words.
Although monkeys have feelings too they don't really care anyway, because they know who is the children of of Adam and Eve, and it ain't them.

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We should be more important cos we happen to be the only ones who can dominate the world, or count, or comunicate completely with thousands of words.
Although monkeys have feelings too they don't really care anyway, because they know who is the children of of Adam and Eve, and it ain't them.



I dunno...she looks pretty intelligent, and sexy.

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I also know some stupid people.....I see dumb people ALL THE TIME... cool


Would one of the happend to be named Chibi Boy? Perhaps he has never heard the euphamism, "It is better to be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt." In any case, the only thing he has proved through his continued participation in this thread is how ingorant he truly is of genetics, modern evolutionary theory, and the scientific method.


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yep, that is exactly what our ancestors looked like back then.


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And you thought I was ignorant? What humans think of other humans ain't got nothing to do with nothing, they might not be 'considered' to be smart by you or i, yet they're smarter than any monkey.

yeah as I thought you wouldnt get that little joke
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What? I'M ignorant? How can a Muslim god and Jesus Christ even exist in the same zones? One way must be the only way, it's impossible for what you think and what I think to exist in the same zones. God or No God there can't be yours AND mine
no this is arrogance more than ignorance

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Wait a minute, dogs and sheep aren't even the same type of creature, but according to you Humans are primates just like Apes.
not just according to me, if you knew a little bit about anthropology this wouldnt be news


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How'd we even know the scientists are even telling the truth?
just the way you believe the bible to be the truth

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how can we be so different to them if we share most of the same DNA?
because the dna we dont share makes all teh differences
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How'd you know? Got any specific reason why our facial features are so easy to see when theirs must be really small?
if not they wouldnt recognize their own offspring's, even humans that works in zoos and the likes see the difference in them

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That happened in 1795, so it ain't ancient.
yes 1727 B.C.E(B.C) to be more precisely which means it predates your precious 10 commandments by 500 years

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You know, the only animals scientists are testing are US, the human race, testing if we can really be fooled easily enough to think lowly of ourselves

or being religious as we also can call it
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You clearly don't have a clue with this one every question you have asked I have answered, and I have proved you wrong
no you think you tried to answer them b, but you didnt, and you havent proven any one in here wron about nothing, you even havent got your facts accurate
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Lol, So you don't care about me?

not at all
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Evolution obviously ain't real, it was only a theory with no proof or nothin. And no proof has been gained since
contra all the proof we have for the biblival stories laughing out loud laughing out loud Evolution has it holes which unable it to have a whole picture but they are at least putting forward hard evidence to back up their beliefs

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Humans don't have long hair though, all mammals have atleast tiny hairs, but why count those?
humans learn how to cloth themselfs through time the need for all that hair to preserve heat wasnt needed anymore, nature gets rid of whats not needed

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If you changed the colour of a Bears fur to white, made his/hers fur longer, he/she'd be a Polar bear.
I highly suggest you take up some zoology, polar bears have webbing's between their toes which the forest bear do not have.

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If you shaved the mane off a Lion and dyed his/hers fur exactly like a tigers, then she/he would be like a Tiger
No even though you can cross breed them they are different in size(tigers are the biggest) and behaviour when it comes to hunting and how they live. Lions in families, tigers alone

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No other animal has supposedly evolved as much as us, why?
all animals have evolved to adapt to the environment those who couldnt went extinct, we evolved so much and still do cause we change the environment that surrounds us all the time and we need to adapt. We also change the natural environment for other animals and they try to adapt to it but th change is happen to fast for them, and many species are on the brink of extinction

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