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Thor vs. Hulk
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It's not us. It's Marvel. They are the ones who provide the statistics and handbooks. Also, blame the writers.


I blame the Hulk fans as well, who have taken this healing factor as all-purpose ammuntion, to argue Hulk cannot be killed by anything.
It was easier when the Hulk's skin seemed impenetrable. Now he can get impaled on a massive tree trunk - and we don't even know what happened before that; he could have already died and his body was just thrown on it - and the Hulk fan will crow: "Oh that's PIS. Hulk can't be killed by that; he can regenerate."


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Yes he does regenerate that's the point he did it once from a skeleton state, he grew back eye's lungs you name it, and he grew it back.
I didn't know he could do that first but looking at hulk the end, it's shocking, I thought he would die in that comic but he didn't he just stood up after 18 min, and didn't had a scratch

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Yes he does regenerate that's the point he did it once from a skeleton state, he grew back eye's lungs you name it, and he grew it back.
I didn't know he could do that first but looking at hulk the end, it's shocking, I thought he would die in that comic but he didn't he just stood up after 18 min, and didn't had a scratch


And why? because of the fans.


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I blame the Hulk fans as well, who have taken this healing factor as all-purpose ammuntion, to argue Hulk cannot be killed by anything.
It was easier when the Hulk's skin seemed impenetrable. Now he can get impaled on a massive tree trunk - and we don't even know what happened before that; he could have already died and his body was just thrown on it - and the Hulk fan will crow: "Oh that's PIS. Hulk can't be killed by that; he can regenerate."


I'm affraid it's the anti-Hulk crowd who will stop at nothing to have you believe that the Hulk can be killed with a toothpick. Hulk fans aren't just talking about healing factor, btw. His level of invulnerability and durability should be enough to withstand a lot more than people give him credit for.

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aha getting bored why don't you just read this.

The Hulk has probably the quickest healing factor than anyone in the Marvel Universe, including Wolverine. Wounds that would be deadly to most other heroes takes just a short time for the Hulk to recover. During a battle with Vector, he repelled all of the skin off of the Hulk leaving just exposed flesh and muscle. It took the Hulk minutes to regain the mass and be completely healed. During a battle with Speedfreek, he cut the Hulk's stomach open with adamantium blades. The Hulk had to hold his stomach to prevent his insides from spilling out. Within minutes the wound had healed, but unfortunately the skin had healed around part of the Hulk's fingers. He had to rip his fingers out of his stomach and allow it to heal again.

http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/...Bruce_Banner%29

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And why? because of the fans.


Why did Thor "kill" Hulk and Thing? because of the Thor-fans.

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Marvel.com is a better source, but either way Hulk's healing factor isn't the best. From what i've seen Juggernauts is, when he had his body burnt to the skeleton he healed in seconds.


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Why did Thor "kill" Hulk and Thing? because of the Thor-fans.


No, he killed them because he's that damn good and even better now. Thor really doesn't have many fans, not compared to the likes of Hulk.


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No, he killed them because he's that damn good and even better now. Thor really doesn't have many fans, not compared to the likes of Hulk.


He has his own comic book. He has enough fans to cater to. And just because he's popular doesn't mean Hulk can be easily killed by less popular characters..

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first of all I think this source I gave is pretty accurate enough.
Second it seems to me like you are either a hulk hater or of course a thor fan smile.

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Don't hate Hulk but I think he's overrated. I think Hulk defeats a lot of characters that he shouldn't, and I think a lot of characters job to him.

Thor is a character that should in all actuality should defeat Hulk every time they fight, but he doesn't because he has to job.


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every time no iff he fights hulk, one on one raw power and let hulk get angry hulk will win, thor with hammer sure why not he wins.
Thor fighting smart sure why not he wins.

But hulk is not overrated he is marvel's guy that can do the things he want iff it come's to raw power, just brute force.
hulk has never show his limit yet.

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Neither have about 15 other characters, but they don't get to show what they can do because they don't have the fan base Hulk has and they don't have their own comic.

You probably didn't know that Thor no longer as a limit to his abilities? You don't get to hear things like this because it's always Hulk who gets linked to unlimited strength.

Even of this was a h2h fight Thor would win, he's become that good.


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From impalement or not, he died. An archie fan can see that. Just look at what Thor did to caps shield. Either way hulk died because the writer saw fit. Hulk was fighting a far superior being. So the writer wanted it that way ,yea hes writing a thor comic. Why does hulk do the things hes does in his comic.. DUH.....because the writer wrote it that way. Come on I dont think the hulk is gonna die from simple impalement either but Thors got plenty other ways to kill him as well. Maybe the bodys there but the mind is gone. Thats well within king thors power. No matter the body without a conciousness its over. One scenerio anyway.


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aha getting bored why don't you just read this.

The Hulk has probably the quickest healing factor than anyone in the Marvel Universe, including Wolverine. Wounds that would be deadly to most other heroes takes just a short time for the Hulk to recover. During a battle with Vector, he repelled all of the skin off of the Hulk leaving just exposed flesh and muscle. It took the Hulk minutes to regain the mass and be completely healed. During a battle with Speedfreek, he cut the Hulk's stomach open with adamantium blades. The Hulk had to hold his stomach to prevent his insides from spilling out. Within minutes the wound had healed, but unfortunately the skin had healed around part of the Hulk's fingers. He had to rip his fingers out of his stomach and allow it to heal again.

http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/...Bruce_Banner%29


And none of this was valid prior to 1987, when the writer & editor decided he had a fast-healing power all this time. Now, the healing factor has become a writer's crutch, and is spreading. Beast has a healing factor now. God, they'll probably give one to Thanos someday. Like being incredibly tough isn't enough.
I'm not saying Hulk isn't incredibly tough, but others are treating him as unkillable. They talk about his death by King Thor as just a future event that got wiped out anyway, so why not? While also endorsing the events of Hulk: The End, which is nothing more than an alternate, possible future. Can't have it both ways.


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I wasn't necessarily endorsing the events in Hulk: The End. But the evidence of Hulk's healing factor in that one is backed by a whole lot more feats. The same can't be said about Savage Hulk's impalement.
Besides that, Hulk: The End didn't change the character one bit, it just depicted a possible future. Now, in the future, a weaker Hulk may get killed without PIS. No doubt. But through impalement? That would nullify everything that has been established for Hulk in terms of durability and healing, which is stupid.

Also, I'm sure the Hulk has shown regenerative abilities before 1987? Sure, things have gotten ridiculous, but that goes for many, if not all characters. I'm not sure about Thor, but Hulk's innitial evolution is largely due to continuous absorption of radiation. Or at least that's how it was explained at some point.

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Well aren't many characters evolving in marvel especialy on the x-men??
I mean some turned freaking powerfull, beast upgrade issn't really big, he went from 2ton, 10 ton to 30 ton, and well yes he got a little healing factor still won't help him much in a really big fight iff he gets hurt bad he can'r heal up in minute's luke sabertooth, or wolverine.

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Offhand, I would say if you have that much energy running through your system (and you would have to, to be that strong or durable), then a healing factor is not far-fetched.


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Neither have about 15 other characters, but they don't get to show what they can do because they don't have the fan base Hulk has and they don't have their own comic.

You probably didn't know that Thor no longer as a limit to his abilities? You don't get to hear things like this because it's always Hulk who gets linked to unlimited strength.

Even of this was a h2h fight Thor would win, he's become that good.
(watup dude)no he wouldnt he get ownwd 1 hand or 30 an thats a fact beatin him with impalement(PIS) or magic(PIS)is one thing but for a hulk thats pissed to even have a chance u got to be beyond rkt it doesnt matter how powerful he is that dont mean hes strong


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hey hulk=strength look at my three part story in the hypathical tread

its aquaman vs namor


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