And exactly my point. He'd be sending lightning out of the stubs of his arms, and said lightning would channel through his mechanical arms to the rest of his suit...
No, the lightning would never touch him. It is conjured up from outside his fingertips. I said it before and I'll say it again, palps could probably shoot the lightning out of his dik if he wanted too. The act of using fingers is just for simplicity and show. It's external, and has nothing to do with body or fingers.
About the EU discussion:
I don't mind EU I guess for fun reading, but I just can't stand all the extremes they go to. I would buy it no problem if they made the guys in it slightly better, or embelished it a bit. But all this crap about destroying stars, creating black holes, feeding off force energy, and affecting galaxies and shit is just plain rediculous.
I like it a lot better when Jedi's and Siths are only as powerful as they appear to be in the movies. Especially when you factor in the OT. Jedi's and Siths weren't actually that much better then regular people in the old movies. No massive jumping, no super speed running, no holding breath for minutes at a time, no super resiliant bodies or acrobatics. Granted, it's because of movie making technology but still. No mention of any of that, and no hint of it in any of the movies at all. Now all of a sudden all these Ancient and future Jedi's and Siths can do all that? How come the current movie time ones can't? did those powers skip a 1000 years? Please...
We have to remember the movies that made us all fans in the first place, and stay true somewhat to what they set out. There are certain unwritten guidelines in star wars I beleive, and many EU storylines go way past them IMO.
It may be external, but where is he going to conjure it from? The Force does not run through metal or cybernetic limbs, it would be conjured from his stubs, where the false limbs are attached. So, it would go through the limbs and go through him.
Regarding EU, I don't mind the less drastic stories. It's the ones where they are destroying stars and giving Jedi powers that are less believable that get boring.
Funny, I thought it was a discussion that had no definitive answer, which is why we discuss it... Does rex also know the answer to the cosmic riddle of abortion? j/k'ing, but you see my point. Anyway...
So you both are saying that in fact, it is internal, and that when palps and Dooku shoot the force lightning, they also have to block it from hitting themselves when they do it? So they block and shoot at the same time?
Interesting, since obviously palps couldn't do both when windu redirected it back to palps. If it was so easy for them to block it while shooting it, doesn't it stand to reason that palps would have used the same trick in the windu duel, and he would not have been hit with his own lightning?
I still see it as an external thing, that never touches the body of the person shooting it. It's like a force push. Has absolutely nothing to do with the person pushing. No strength physically of any kind is needed. You are simply pushing the force. Same as lightning imo
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Yah, I previously read the Visual Dictionary and it did say that. Also, I was reading the Revenge of the Sith novel and after Palpatine finds Anakin on Mustafar he is thinking about the fact that Vader could never use lightning because it takes real arms to create(or something like that).
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Captain REX. Where does it ever show Vader dieing by Lightning. It was the fact that he took off his helmet which lets him BREATH to look upon Luke with his own eyes. What movie you watching?
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It could have been Luke's fault. The way he fought against Vader would have killed any robotic system. Really we have no proof it was the lightning, for it might even have been a heart attack from being on a place about to blow up. We dont know
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It was really two things: firstly he had lost his arm. His breathing was heavily impaired by that (as could be heard). This would have had to be rectified at a later date. Clearly the Sith Lightning impacted him heavily. Vader felt the FULL power of the Dark Side. Sidious was using all his power to kill Luke. 'Nothing can stop that now' was said before his mask was removed. He was dying anyway. Clearly by taking off the mask he would die. But the Sith Lightning killed him never the less
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Any highly skilled Force user can do the Force Lightning ability. Jedi just choose not to because they, as said before, try not to use it as attack, only for defense instead. Just about everyone could use it, I would assume, but someone like Palpatine is more powerful. Obviously a Padawan wouldn't be able to use it...those younglings aren't shooting it out to protect themselves....though that'd be funny to watch lol
If Vader took his helmet off could he shoot lightning out of his forehead?
If vader completley turned his arm into a rubber arm could he then use it to shoot lightning with?
Also with EU. Yes the games and some other stuff are bringing it to far, but I think some EU products should be made official if approved by lucas and all. Like thie visual dictionary that should be official. The clone war novels should be officialized.
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If the lightning went back into his suit and screwed up his breathing system it's because his suit was set up to channel electricity from his stubs to his breathing system.
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