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Anyway Kenobi, here's what you wanted but I don't know why I bother since you're mashed up head is gonna dismiss it as false in some way or another just like everything else we have shown you.

http://www.911dossier.co.uk/hj03.html


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Anyone notice a pattern about these conspiracy theorists never publishing or airing their research, so it can be scrutinized by experts? When it is debunked or questioned, it's because the experts are controlled. Just like this supposed genealogy finding linking all world leaders to the same bloodline. The finding is not published, held but only one man. and never allowed expert examination.

The 9/11 findings are filled with misquotes and doctored photographs.

If asked for objective sources such as CNN or MSNBC, we're told the mainstream media is controlled, yet when convenient, mainstream media source are quoted.

By the way, quantum physics is highly theoretical and there is very little that has been "proven" using these theories, especially mind control. Numerology has been proven highly inaccurate by non-conspiracy theory experts. It can be manipulated to show whatever the user wants it to show.

And then you have Novusordo, who under the guise of "not liking" me, refuses to address any question I have as to the validity of his statements. Deano, who still hasn't yet to address my eyewitness to the collapse of WTC 7 and the fact I saw the event live and in person. Or has he addressed the fact that most of the people quoted in his article were not FDNY firemen. Have you noticed the pattern?


wtc 7?

REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM: WTC 7
In the May House Science Committee W. Gene Corley, the American Society of Civil Engineers representative on the BPAT, conceded that “Building 7, which was across the street from the main towers, also collapsed and provided us with the first example that we recognized of a building collapsing as a result of fire.” (House May 30) WTC 7 presents
the image of a classical controlled demolition. Whereas the twin towers are seen to explode, WTC 7 implodes – it falls in upon itself with none of the spectacular mushroom plumes of smoke and powder which had marked the demise of the larger twin towers. The foundations collapse before the façade, the middle of the building collapses before the outer walls, and streamers of smoke are emitted from the façade. WTC 7 did imitate
the twin towers by collapsing almost exclusively upon its own foundations. WTC 7 contained electrical generators and a supply for diesel fuel to operate these, and apologists of the official version like Gerald Posner have seized on this circumstance to make the collapse of this building plausible. But there has been no sign of raging diesel fuel fires, as can be seen from the photos of the fall of WTC 7, so the apologists are
grasping at straws. The owner of the WTC complex was Larry Silverstein, who recounted the fall of WTC 7 in the September 2002 PBS documentary, America Rebuilds, complete with this
astounding revelation:[B]“I remember getting a call from the…fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire, and I said, ‘we’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing is to pull it. And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.” “To pull” would appear to be the jargon term in controlled demolition circles for the deliberate detonation of charges leading to the destruction of a building.[B\] And if WTC 7 was pulled, why not WTC
1 and 2?


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You don't know the 9/11 photos are doctored. You only think they are becuase they go against the official line. And what misquotes are you on about? You're argument is poor.

And what the hell do you mean global conspiracy theorists never publish their information? They do so wherever they possibly can and of course it's not aired on TV or in mainstream information sources becuase they are controlled by the people who want to keep it under wrapps.

And yes, mainstream news sources are controlled, mainly by the Rockefeller family since they monopilised and set-up many of them from the start.

Quanum Physics pisses over every other theory on the nature of reality says many scientists. It also explains everything previously labeled "mystery".

And I dont not like you, I hate you becuase you are the type of person that will bind us to this manipulation becuase of the way you have given you're mind away and can't think for youself WHATSOEVER. You allow the people you consider "experts" and "professor" do you're thinking for you.

The fact that you, in all honesty, cannot see any truth in the massively abundant ammount of evidence that absolutely rapes the official story of 9/11, is proof alone that you are a cattle-minded zombie that can't think for himself WHATSOEVER.

Now stay away from this thread becuase every 'argument' you've attempted to make in here is hysterically poor.


Many good points but please quantum physics is as disputible as mainstream physics and leaves many unanswerd questions.
Your 3rd last pg in which you called him a zombie was a little overzealous perhaps he is just unable to accept that his "security" and lifestyle arnt what they seem,as for the media i totally agree if you examine the american news for example it is filled with fear spawning and really aims to get people worked up and feel scared and insecure therefor more dependent on their government which they reliy on for protection.


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You do know that every piece of information we have given to him, he has tried to dismiss it in some way or another?

He's impossible and his mind is so warped and conditioned into this secular 'reality' that he just cannot think for himself.

If we are to bring this manipulation down, people like him need to die becuase they are the titanium chains that bind us into this manipulation.


No, I have asked for a source other than a conspiracy theorist. You have provided none. No Dan Rather backing up your claims. No legitimate mainstream research, only one conspiracy theorist sourcing another conspiracy theorist.

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I saw the goddam thing with my own eyes live and in person. I do know that the photos of people standing in the hole the plane made are fake, but I saw that hole with my own eyes. Surely you're not stupid enough to call an eyewitness report poor.


Kenobi... people standing in the blast holes and jumping out the buildings was reported on mainstream news, okay?

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They are controlled, yet you'll quote them when it suits your needs.


Ohh man this just takes the biscuit.

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You make me laugh Novusordo. My mind is controlled, but I question things. You read everything David Icke and his followers say as truth, but tell me, have you researched their findings yourself? If you do, you will see that there are many discrepancies in their work.


Do you seriously think I swallow it all without question? I read from many different authors and the main themes and details are all agreed upon and even experts on ancient history like Zecharia Sitchin agree on the reptilians/interbredding/bloodlines side of it all.



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Obviously, my arguments are not poor, because you have failed to address any comment I have made. All you do is insult, which is a sign of a zealot desparately hanging on to his belief while it crumbles underneath him.


Nope, I get pissed at you becuase you can never see the elephant when its sitting next to you.


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wtc 7?

REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM: WTC 7
In the May House Science Committee W. Gene Corley, the American Society of Civil Engineers representative on the BPAT, conceded that “Building 7, which was across the street from the main towers, also collapsed and provided us with the first example that we recognized of a building collapsing as a result of fire.” (House May 30) WTC 7 presents
the image of a classical controlled demolition. Whereas the twin towers are seen to explode, WTC 7 implodes – it falls in upon itself with none of the spectacular mushroom plumes of smoke and powder which had marked the demise of the larger twin towers. The foundations collapse before the façade, the middle of the building collapses before the outer walls, and streamers of smoke are emitted from the façade. WTC 7 did imitate
the twin towers by collapsing almost exclusively upon its own foundations. WTC 7 contained electrical generators and a supply for diesel fuel to operate these, and apologists of the official version like Gerald Posner have seized on this circumstance to make the collapse of this building plausible. But there has been no sign of raging diesel fuel fires, as can be seen from the photos of the fall of WTC 7, so the apologists are
grasping at straws. The owner of the WTC complex was Larry Silverstein, who recounted the fall of WTC 7 in the September 2002 PBS documentary, America Rebuilds, complete with this
astounding revelation:[B]“I remember getting a call from the…fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire, and I said, ‘we’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing is to pull it. And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.” “To pull” would appear to be the jargon term in controlled demolition circles for the deliberate detonation of charges leading to the destruction of a building.[B\] And if WTC 7 was pulled, why not WTC
1 and 2?


Yes, there was was talk of razing two or three other buildings, but WTC 7 fell before they could secure it. This is from my brother in law at the NYPD, who was there on scene.

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Yes, there was was talk of razing two or three other buildings, but WTC 7 fell before they could secure it. This is from my brother in law at the NYPD, who was there on scene.


no damage to the building whatsoever..and yet it collapsed


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No, I have asked for a source other than a conspiracy theorist. You have provided none. No Dan Rather backing up your claims. No legitimate mainstream research, only one conspiracy theorist sourcing another conspiracy theorist.


Muhahaaaa what did I say Happy Dance

You're hopeless, Kenobi.

Unless it's from a source controlled by the very people who seek to supress the information you are seek, you will not beleive it. Catch 22.

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its a waste of timeerm


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Kenobi... people standing in the blast holes and jumping out the buildings was reported on mainstream news, okay?


No, people jumping out of the building was reported on the mainstream news. People standing in the blast holes is completely false. Now, you're telling me what I saw with my own eyes if false too.

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people seem to be missing the bigger picture on yhis topic there are other theories which explain all you are saying about 9/11


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no damage to the building whatsoever..and yet it collapsed


Yup and the excuse was a little fire broke out in one of the room laughing

That banking building on the other side was closer to the WTC buildings AND EVEN GOT HIT AS BUILDING 2 COLLAPSED YET IT SURVIVED WITH ONLY MINOR DAMAGE YET A BUILDINGS TWICE THE DISTANCE AWAY WHICH NEVER GOT TOUCHED, GOT RAISED TO THE GROUND IN TEXT-BOOK DEMOLITION STYLE!!!!

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no damage to the building whatsoever..and yet it collapsed


There was damage to the building. It's so goddam funny that you will call anybody who was there a liar simply because they disgree with you, but you will believe someone half a world away that has never viewed the site, a credible source.

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whether people was in the blast holes or not...point is the goverment and the scum behind the scenes orchestrated this attack for there own selfish politics. just like hitler did when he firebombed his own reichstag building to scare the people. if you still think al C.I.Aida could pull of such an attack..you are truely gone...maybe you can tell me why NORAD stood down for the first time in 50 years..maybe you can tell me why this event was predicted on an illuminati board game along with the pentagon attacks....maybe you can tell me why the madrid building didnt fall after days of being on fire..yet twin towers collapsed within an hour
maybe you can tell me why you are so brainwashed


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Muhahaaaa what did I say Happy Dance

You're hopeless, Kenobi.

Unless it's from a source controlled by the very people who seek to supress the information you are seek, you will not beleive it. Catch 22.


But you quote CBS in one of your tirades, Novusordo. If the mainstream media is not to believed, why should someone believe it when it agrees with you?

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There was damage to the building. It's so goddam funny that you will call anybody who was there a liar simply because they disgree with you, but you will believe someone half a world away that has never viewed the site, a credible source.


tell me what damage ??
what damage could of brought that building down?
the building was far away from the twin towers
the buildings that larry silverstein didnt own..didnt collapse


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There was damage to the building. It's so goddam funny that you will call anybody who was there a liar simply because they disgree with you, but you will believe someone half a world away that has never viewed the site, a credible source.


There was a small fire... and then it collpased.

You are aware that all modern buildings are designed to withstand fires??

Ohh and come to think of it, two engineers that designed the WTC said they designed them to withstand multiple commercial airliner impacts.

besides, FIRE CANNOT BRING DOWN MODERN BUILDINGS EVEN JET FUELED FIRES CANOT DO IT.

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i have a theory,it may not be true but its credible

Bush received warnings that an Islamic group was planning a terrorist atrocity,Bush chose not to act because it would suit his own further gains in a war in the middle east that he was planning.
The planes where hijacked and headed for their targets however the pentagon was not one of them the government (bush) wanted to eliminate those who did not agree with his war policy.
The planes hit Bush used the catastrophe to his advantage and it helped him start a global war on terror which he new hed be able to use to attack Saddam and bush also may have other buildings such as the ones miles from WTC destroyed to fit his own agenda


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But you quote CBS in one of your tirades, Novusordo. If the mainstream media is not to believed, why should someone believe it when it agrees with you?


Well use a bit of logic roll eyes (sarcastic)

The media are there to pound the version of events the Illuminati want the masses to believe and so anything that goes AGAINST the official line, must be true. Does that make sense to you?

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Well use a bit of logic roll eyes (sarcastic)

The media are there to pound the version of events the Illuminati want the masses to believe and so anything that goes AGAINST the official line, must be true. Does that make sense to you?


what if the illuminati want to create "conflict" to suit their own desighns for they control the media so nothing could go out that they didnt allow


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