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9/11 = 911 days, 7/7= 77 days


You may be on to something there. I believe the british dial two sevens in case of emergencys.


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Originally posted by Deano
Contrary to widespread childish opinion, most of the important things that happen in the world, happen because powerful forces intend them to happen.
You can continue to believe the fairy tale of the 'War on Terror' if it makes you sleep better at night (and if your sense of credulity can stand the burden!) Or you can go back to your controlled TV news, pretend this problem doesn’t exist, and let Messrs. Rather, Brokaw, and Jennings do your thinking for you while the world destroys itself thanks to the influence of a corrupt few.
Or, you can muster the moral and intellectual courage to free your mind from bondage and face the ugly truth for what it is. You can join the 'extremists' and make a commitment to share the horrible truth with others, or, you can smirk and roll your eyes.
The choice is yours. History and posterity will judge your actions accordingly


Childish opinion? My you are an arrogant one. You put yourself above the world's leading scholars with that statement. Moral and intellectual courage? When flaws are pointed out in your statemets, you ignore them. If it's a question of morality, one would think you also believe that you are morally obligated to make everyone aware of the situation, which includes addressing all questions about the validity of your belief. You post thoughts that are not your own. When those thoughts are challenged, you insult or post more thoughts that are not your own. You say you're tired of defending yourself, but any true moral man would take on the naysayers in the name morality. It's for the good of the people, remember?

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Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You may be on to something there. I believe the british dial two sevens in case of emergencys.


give me a break. numbers can be manipulated to show patterns in anything.

Check out the Bible Code:

Essentially the way that the code works is the author takes all the words in the bible, removes all spaces between the words and punctuation, then using a computer he looks at every (*)th word. He then strings these words together to try and find some connection to events that have already happened, called retro-fitting. Using this code you can find hidden messages in any book, Drosnin's critics claimed, in which he retorted " when my critics find a message about the assassination of a prime minister encrypted in Moby Dick, I'll believe them." One of his critics, Brendan McKay took up the challenge to find that message and not only did he find it, a reference to Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, she also found messages about other assassinations of; President Rene Moawad, Leon Trotsky, Martin Luther King, the assassin Sirhan Sirhan, John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln and the list goes on. But David E. Thomas dealt the final death blow came when he found the saying "The code is bogus" 60 times in the book of Genesis.

Conspiracy theorists use this same type of technique to show patterns where there are none. To prove their point, they should be going back to dates of every significant occurence in history and putting them into their system of significant numbers. But they don't.

Plus if you written 9/11 as move western european banks do, it reads 11/9/01. Not so significant anymore.

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Originally posted by Deano
Contrary to widespread childish opinion, most of the important things that happen in the world, happen because powerful forces intend them to happen.
You can continue to believe the fairy tale of the 'War on Terror' if it makes you sleep better at night (and if your sense of credulity can stand the burden!) Or you can go back to your controlled TV news, pretend this problem doesn’t exist, and let Messrs. Rather, Brokaw, and Jennings do your thinking for you while the world destroys itself thanks to the influence of a corrupt few.
Or, you can muster the moral and intellectual courage to free your mind from bondage and face the ugly truth for what it is. You can join the 'extremists' and make a commitment to share the horrible truth with others, or, you can smirk and roll your eyes.
The choice is yours. History and posterity will judge your actions accordingly


Oh, get off your high horse, would you? Are you there when they control TV news? Are you there when they supposedly made up this lie called "war on terror?" Are you there for ANY of this crap that you claim is happening? If not, then stop acting like you know for sure what goes on behind the scenes. Because you don't.

"Or, you can muster the moral and intellectual courage to free your mind from bondage and face the ugly truth for what it is."

You should really take your own advise and "free your mind" from this ridiculous "bondage" that is keeping you from reality and "face the ugly truth for what it is" which is this whole symbology thing is bogus.

And how dare you claim that "others" are letting "Brokaw and Jennings do their thinking for them," when I have a suspicion that you are getting your thoughts from somewhere else.

And I'm sorry for being so blunt and mean, but your arrogance and hypocrisy is annoying.

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And how dare you claim that "others" are letting "Brokaw and Jennings do their thinking for them," when I have a suspicion that you are getting your thoughts from somewhere else.

And I'm sorry for being so blunt and mean, but your arrogance and hypocrisy is annoying.


Thank you for pointing this out. I'm glad someone else notices. To be fair to Deano, I don't know if he just can't articulate well enough or what, but all he does is quote. He rarely, if ever, explains his belief in his own words. It leads me to believe he hasn't scrutinized the information by looking at the information that opposes his view, just read it and accepted it.

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to be terrible honest with you all i don't think these sick deranged people care what days the destroy peoples lives...
they just do it...
and instead of justifying what these people are doing and criticizing the world leaders maybe you should open your eyes and see whats going on... (by the way this is directed at one person in particular)
these 'extremists' that you talk about are the problem...
they do not help...
they hinder...
and our world leaders are trying to make our lives safer by stopping these criminals these murderers...
my sister has been living in London since February...
and when we heard what happened and we could not contact her i thought that i had lost another person i love...
so you need to step out of the shadow that you call reality and realise what 'extremists' are doing to our world...


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Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Thank you for pointing this out. I'm glad someone else notices. To be fair to Deano, I don't know if he just can't articulate well enough or what, but all he does is quote. He rarely, if ever, explains his belief in his own words. It leads me to believe he hasn't scrutinized the information by looking at the information that opposes his view, just read it and accepted it.


if someone can explain better than me..then whats wrong with quoting?


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you have yet to prove that you even have a grasp of what you are quoting.
all you're doing is copying and pasting and saying "this is the truth" and "you're all sheep"

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you have yet to prove that you even have a grasp of what you are quoting.
all you're doing is copying and pasting and saying "this is the truth" and "you're all sheep"


ive provided many links
its up to you what you choose to believe


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ive provided many links
its up to you what you choose to believe


exactly my point.
generic pointless rhetoric which contributes nothing to a
nonexistant discussion.

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Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
give me a break. numbers can be manipulated to show patterns in anything.

Check out the Bible Code:

Essentially the way that the code works is the author takes all the words in the bible, removes all spaces between the words and punctuation, then using a computer he looks at every (*)th word. He then strings these words together to try and find some connection to events that have already happened, called retro-fitting. Using this code you can find hidden messages in any book, Drosnin's critics claimed, in which he retorted " when my critics find a message about the assassination of a prime minister encrypted in Moby Dick, I'll believe them." One of his critics, Brendan McKay took up the challenge to find that message and not only did he find it, a reference to Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, she also found messages about other assassinations of; President Rene Moawad, Leon Trotsky, Martin Luther King, the assassin Sirhan Sirhan, John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln and the list goes on. But David E. Thomas dealt the final death blow came when he found the saying "The code is bogus" 60 times in the book of Genesis.

Conspiracy theorists use this same type of technique to show patterns where there are none. To prove their point, they should be going back to dates of every significant occurence in history and putting them into their system of significant numbers. But they don't.

Plus if you written 9/11 as move western european banks do, it reads 11/9/01. Not so significant anymore.


How super intelligent of you. Not very good at picking up on sarcasm...are you? What's most impressive is that you totally missed the two sevens comment.


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i wouldnt have seen the sarcasm either capt...if i didnt already have the knowledge that you're a smartass stick out tongue

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I don't know the significance that the terrorists were home grown brits with average jobs is hugesad


The surprise in learning of dishonorable natives that killed 55-60 people versus terrorists living and training under our noses in the U.S. that proudly take the lives of 2,996 people in one day.

Apples and oranges, man.

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I think with 2000 mosques in UK, Moslem clerics can do a better job at helping these young community members channel their anger.


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actually...911 days after 9/11 the 2004 train bombings in Madrid happened.

More symbolism which clearly shows the Madrid bombings were staged by the New World Order


do you live in London?


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nah


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those terrorists already terrorized the middle east, now they are headed to Europe.


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Originally posted by fanny_adams
to be terrible honest with you all i don't think these sick deranged people care what days the destroy peoples lives...
they just do it...
and instead of justifying what these people are doing and criticizing the world leaders maybe you should open your eyes and see whats going on... (by the way this is directed at one person in particular)
these 'extremists' that you talk about are the problem...
they do not help...
they hinder...
and our world leaders are trying to make our lives safer by stopping these criminals these murderers...
my sister has been living in London since February...
and when we heard what happened and we could not contact her i thought that i had lost another person i love...
so you need to step out of the shadow that you call reality and realise what 'extremists' are doing to our world...


Agreed, and well said Fanny. Unfortunately, there are too many people around us who sympathize with these sick people, who see their actions as admirable for their efforts to cut down the "Imperial Giant" or anyone else they disagree with. Mostly because in some cases, the people who admire them like to see what THEY would like to be doing if they had the guts.

Regardless of *this* thing or *that* thing, Al Qaeda are completely responsible for their actions, and they should realize that if this is what they choose, then WE should choose to NOT put up with it, and go out and do something.

These guys are nothing more but scum that need to be culled from humanity. They won't stop, and if I had to worry about the safety of millions vs. the 50 or 60 nutbags planning the next 9-11, then all I have to say is 'take em' out." We let them get too strong a foothold, and now they're a REAL problem.

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How the goverement staged the london bombings in 10 easy steps:

1) Hire a Crisis Management firm to set up an exercise that parallels the terrorist attack you are going to carry out. Have them run the exercise at the precise locations and at the very same time as the attack. If at any stage of the attack your Arabs get caught, tell the police it was part of an exercise.

2) Hire four Arabs and tell them they're taking part in an important exercise to help defend London from terrorist attacks. Strap them with rucksacks filled with deadly explosives. Tell the Arabs the rucksacks are dummy explosives and wouldn't harm a fly.

3) Tell four Arabs to meet up at London Underground and disperse, each getting on a different train. Make sure Arabs meet in a location where you can get a good mug shot of them all on CCTV which you can later endlessly repeat to drooling masses on television.

4) While four Arabs are in London, plant explosives in their houses in Leeds. Plant some explosives in one of their cars in Luton for the police to later discover. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics on this one.

5) Before the bombings take place, make sure you warn any of your buddies who are scheduled to be anywhere near where the bombs go off. If this gets leaked to the press, just deny it.

6) 4th Arab goes out partying in London night before and ends up getting out of bed late. No worries, the 9/11 'hijackers' did the same thing but that didn't cause us a big problem. 4th Arab catches bus to see if other Arabs are waiting for him. 4th Arab starts hearing about explosions in the London Underground. 4th Arab comes to the realization that this he is being set up and freaks out. 4th Arab starts fiddling in his rucksack. 4th Arab sets bomb off and is blown up.

7) After the bombs go off, put out a story for over an hour that the explosions are a simple electrical fault. This gives you cover time to make sure the lazy bus Arab is dead and any other hired Arabs who reneged are also dead. Make sure any CCTV footage that doesn't support your official story is either seized or destroyed.

8) A few hours after the bombings, have one of your boys post an 'Al-Qaeda statement' claiming responsibility. Don't worry about the whole 'misreferencing the Qu'ran' thing, these idiots don't have the attention spans to figure it out.

9) After you have made sure that all the Arabs are dead and you are managing the story accordingly, wait for four days until the police piece together the story and find the explosives you planted in Leeds and in the car in Luton. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics this time either. The time delay will convince the gullible public that a real investigation is taking place. Create a background of the hired Arabs being militant Muslims. The drooling masses, as was the case with the '9/11 hijackers,' will ignore stories of neighbours saying they were the quiet, educated types who liked children and playing sports.

BBC excerpt: One local resident described him as "a nice lad".

"He liked to play football, he liked to play cricket. I'm shocked."

Another resident said he was just a "normal kid" who played basketball and kicked a ball around.


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