That's not what I meant. You decided to omit his name from the good actors of the OT list on purpose. You listed Samuel Jackson but he had a pretty small role (even though it was of a very important character).
There's a difference between a whiny character and literally declaring the purpose of a certain scene. You notice it also in George's audio commentary in AotC. He goes "Now this scene is supposed to set up that Anakin thinks Obi-Wan is holding him back" and then, amazingly, Anakin says "Obi-Wan, I think you're holding me back" or "Padme, he's holding me back" or something else silly to that extant.
A character being whiny is no excuse to bad characterisation - Luke was extremely whiny in A New Hope but it's no where as bad as Anakin.
Yeah, but that's because you watch the PT all the time.
Well, no offense but I also emitted james earl Jones from rots with his small part. I call a push. No matter if he says, "Nooooooooooo!" or "I find your lack of faith disturbing." What Ian did in Jedi with a VERY one dimentional character was good but his acting was superb in the PT.
You can say it hurts my argument but I really can't disagree with that more.
BTW, where does anakin tell Obi-wan he is holding him back? I can think of one part, where he is speaking to padme in aotc where he says that and I see nothing wrong with it. Teenagers whine, especially to their friends.
It seems to me you are basing your argument off of GL's commentary. I suppose anakin could have walked around kicking a wall to show his "whineingness" but why? Luke's character(played by one of the best B movie actor's of all time btw) was no where near as whiny and when he was, especially on Dagobah, he whined up a storm.
Should he have told Yoda the Xwing was immposible to move, whining like a lil girl or should he have just jumped in the swamp, which is as big of a declaration of a scene as possible.
As for cheesy dialogue is just the PT....lol....I suppose I can quote a bunch from all six movies. GL is not a writer.
Ian's performance in Jedi was great. I said that using another adjetive I believe.....but IMO, he stole RoTS and was great in every scene from TPM and AoTC I can think of.
Hell, add him to the OT lineup of great actors. That gives you three plus a voice.
GL seriously isn't a writer, which is why he handed the job to Lawrence Kasdan in ESB and RotJ. Too bad Lawrence turned him down when he asked him to write the PT as well.
I see there's no hope convincing you otherwise. So... the PT is the best of the series, it's a true masterpiece - an epitome of visual effects and acting, the climax which movie making, from its early beginning, has been leading up to. Although Hayden gave the performance of his life, and I'm sure touched many, they should have replaced all the actors with CGI because I believe, as does George Lucas, that digital actors are much easier and better than live ones. My only spite with the PT is that they didn't give Jar-Jar enough screen time. I absolutely loved Jar Jar!
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Registered: Jun 2005
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Although both are sw and good trilogies there can only be one winner being the PT, i mean seriously- Lightsaber fights PT VS OT- who else laughed in ANH when vader and obi fought, seriously it was bad, And Alec Guiness & Harrison Ford carried the acting for the others in OT, compared to the awesome actors in PT with occasional bad lines, Natile VS Carrie = Natile Hands down, Overall PT less whiny and annoying (except Jar Jar) way better CG tech and ROTS = better then ROTJ OT gets worse everyday sad but true
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Living my life, fighting my war.
But OT had a GOOD storyline, Who cares about the flashy special effects when you can have a good story... AND NO JAR JAR. (Phantom Menace may have actually been good without Jar Jar Binks... WHO SUCKS!)
The good thing about the OT is that it never took itself to seriously, i mean ewoks defeated the emperors best troop sfor god sakes! The problem with the PT is that it tries to take itself seriously, even with the blundering idiot named after a jar. The PT continuosly fails at staying on the subject and with the ultimate main character (anakin) and instead relies to much on special effects. It foccueses on pod races, and random bad guys and never even takes enough time to explain what the prophecy is. I just hope that the new T.V. series won't be half as bad...
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The Original Trilogy had one problem, Return of the Jedi. Cut the Ewoks from the film and you have a decent movie, the ewoks suck and anyone who disagrees is wrong. The Prequels had many things wrong, of course Jar Jar, but I won't beat that dead horse anymore. Anakin in episode II should have been strangled by Obi-Wan and decapitated by Master Yoda. The only right thing was Episode III. The Original Trilogy is and will always be the best and anyone who says otherwise is either retarded or in love with Hayden Christenson
__________________ "The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous."
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Jar Jar Binks makes The Ewoks look cooler than Marty McFly in a flying DeLorean, picking up Samuel M Jackson and then doing a drive by with proton packs, in space.
Jul 31st, 2005 06:46 PM
ya gotta love it
