Listen you peace of shit i was just ****ing around, dont go pissing in your batman underoos you damn geek, you want to call my cousin a retard well **** you and your peace of shit family ***** .if you think Keaton looked good well *** **** the chinless wonder your self . you wanna start something with this Latino, mother****a good , even though you aint nothing but a ***** with a big mouth.you want to call me retard just because i said something good about batman 4, geeks dont know how to take a joke it seems ,and you all mad cause of the nipples on the costumes when you still suck on your dirty mommas nipples, ***** please you must be doing that since all you do is cry cry cry cry on this forum. Also why is your name sevenman do you want **** seven men well i bet you are going to start with Michel Keaton since you think he looked so fine. so if you finally done bitchen **** off you silly little HO!!!
Hey pimp,you keep talking like that and using that kind of language,you will get banned here.relax dude.dont let a few internet dudes who dont know a crappy batman movie when its right in front of their eyes get to you, it not worth it.hit the ignore button,thats what I have done with some of them.
Kilmer was only wooden when he had corny lines to read as batman which was most the time,the times he had good lines such as IF BRUCE WAYNE COULD HAVE SAVED YOUR PARENTS BY GIVING HIS LIFE FOR THEM,HE WOULD HAVE.he was great at,most the times his serious lines were as bruce wayne and thats when he exclled the most.your shwoing why kilmer was better with those points,kilmer brought more crediblity to the role because he at least fit the part,if an actor doesnt even come close to resembling the role which keaton did not,then he brings no credibility to the role.its like burt reynolds being cast for boss higg,he brings no credibilty to the role because he does nt fit the part,same thing with keaon,how hard can that be to comprehend? : No keaton and clooney were far worse than Kilmer.the REAL dynamin duel is bale and Nolan.KEATON AND BURTON suck royally. keaton brought no crediblity to the role because he did not come even close to fitting the role and acted like a goofy idiot not remembering where he was in the mansion,thats not batman.Kilmer portrayed Wayne much better than keaton did.the dark roots of batman that burton did was make him into a cowardly killer,that butchered to death his character. yes batman killed and he should have been wanted for murder at the end,it was much more like a james bond flick than a batman movie. michael keaton and tim burton were a freaking horrible combination for batman.thank god for shumacher and kilmer,at least schumacher did not cast someone only because he was friends with him. which is what burton did,he did not care about pissing off the true batman fans out there who hated the horrible casting of keaton. DEAL WITH IT.
and also,the TRUE batman from the comics would easily have beat that goon of the jokers blindfolded.
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I understand what you saying, i was going to ignore him until he called my little cousin a retard so if he going to talk about my family im going to talk about his.if i get banned thats just to damn bad!!!
yo sevenman i noticed every time i mentioned batman 3 or 4 you always say something about the nipples and the butt shots is that all you looked at in the damn movie were the nipples thats probably why you didnt like it because you weren't even looking at the movie. All you were thinking about were the nipples and butts, man you one perverted fruit!!!
except bruce wayne is NOT an old an old bald man,your crippling your arguments dude.devito was not at all convincing in that movie,thats hte most laughable statement of all you have made. again your crippling your arguments because everyboyd did NOT accept it,what burton did with the penguin or to the joker. Tim Burton made the penguin into a laughable idiot which is not true to his character.At least the riddler was funny,the penguin was not.with a character namedlike the penguin of course you would feel sorry for him to die.I wanted to see batman die in the first two batman movies because he was a cowardly killer who killed people in cowardly ways and should have been wanted for mureder at the end,thats horrible screenwriting,thats why batman begins was believeable unlike the burton batman films because it was realisitic when the commissioner said they will be no vigilantes taking the law into their own hands in his town.so the law was after batman in the film,thats good screenwriting,Burtons batman movies have horrible screenwriters. okay let me put it this way,a batman sequel without robin is like starskey and hutch without hutch or the dukes of hazzard with luke duke but not his cousin bo duke,same thing. the first two films are only loyal in the fact that they are dark,thats the only good point you have made so far.But they were too dark in the fact that they turned batman into a cowardly killer which crossed the line.Batman Begins at least did not make him into a cowardly killer which made batman a likeable guy for a change.
there was no realisem in the first two batman films.a movie about some guy who murders people and is treated like a hero at the end instead of being wanted for murder like he should have been is hardly realisem.the first two batman films were boring as hell all they did was stand around and talk most the damn time,thats nuts for batman film.please,the penguin was laughable as a villian,he wasnt real.If anything,two faces character was MORE real than the penguion.and a lady falling off a building and then coming to life because some cats bite her is realisem? ha ha,you crap me up with your laughable posts. thats all you got in the first two batman films was two nonsense story films.
The first tow batman films had no humor whatsoever,you CAN make a good dark serious batman movie and use humor in it the same time as batman begins proved.batman forever had some great humor in it and was dramatic at the same time,and had far better special effects than either of those crapfest burton batman films.at least jim carrey was funny as the riddler,devito was boring as hell and gave a horrible acting performance.
thanks for proving with your points how tim burtons batman movies suck and are not at all true to the comics.Batman is not the cowardly killer that Burton made him into.He would never take a life unless he absolutely had and there was no way out.Killing those goons of the jokers sending in the batmobile by remote and dropping the bomb in front of them was so cowardly of him,and then putting that bomb in that guys pants,again cowardly,thats what james bond would do,NOT batman.thats murder.actually besides batman begins,batman forever is the most true of the four before it.the first two films butchered to death his character with him killing people in cowardly ways. Batman 89 sucked and batman returns sucked twice as worse.batman forever was far better than those two.
oh is that what batman told you? that he was losing on purpose? yeah whatever.he never ever had control of that fight.If he wanted to beat up that guy he could have easily hit him in the nuts and knocked him out cold.sorry but as usual,you lose the argument just like all the burton keaton batman apologists do. If anybody played a wooden horny depressed bruce wayne,that would be keaton.Keaton just tried to copy chris reeves great performance from superman by being cool as batman and a goofy nerd as bruce wayne.Kilmers wayne was at least loyal to the comic bruce wayne by being suave and charming with the women the same way Bale was in Batman Begins.
No that would be you and Tim Burton who would be someone who would be a sad strange little man who does not understand how this movie butchered to death his character making him a coward.No the ONLY BATMAN movie that has stayed true to the original comics is Batman Begins.THATS IT!!!!!!
Thats why they restarted the franchise series because many batman fans to this day are outraged over the horrible casting choice of keaton as batman and how they made him into a cowardly killer.I know that because I have friends that are in their 50's who read the comics and still have the issues and have told me over the years they hated the burton batman movies because they were not at all loyal to the comicbook which is so correct.
You like Batman Forever and Batman & Robin because you are ignorant.
If you say that The Penguin is a sewer dwelling moron then you did not understand his tormented character. That is why I like him. He is a born freak and Batman has to wear a mask. That's powerful stuff if you could just sit down and enjoy it. Two Face wasn't a sewer dwelling moron. You're a sewer dwelling moron!
Yes. BATMAN RETUNRS ****ING ROCKS BIG TIME!
When Val Kilmer said "If Bruce Wayne could have saved your parents by giving his life for them, he would have" that was not because he was a good actor. It was because of good writers. Micheal Keaton could have done it better along with any other line in the film if Tim Burton directed it with no Robin. Over an two hours of script was cut out in the final script of Batman Forever to make it more "Family-Friendly" or in other words "Cash Cow" instead of the dark, interesting, and realisitc stories of Batman and Batman Returns. Robin was a gimmick to give credibility to Bruce Wayne when he was already credible. He was not supposed to have a character at all besides millionaire play boy. If his character was intense and advertised everywhere then everyone in Gotham City would know Bruce Wayne is Batman. It is not realistic and Batman does not need Robin to be a great character. He is stronger than that and Tim Burton realized this. He casted Micheal Keaton because he wanted Bruce Wayne to look like an every day man and even though the world was against it he proved that he was worthy of the title of the Dark Knight with the powerful performances he displayed in the first two films. The new Dukes of Hazzard sucks, I agree. The Dukes of Hazzard was funny when it came to sex but I feel all they had was sex as an advertisment...that's it. Burt Reynolds didn't prove me wrong because he did not play a convincing Boss Hogg. Micheal Keaton portrayed an awesome Bruce Wayne and Batman. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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OOOOOOOOOOOOO........Val Kilmer and George Clooney was FAR worse than micheal Keaton. I agree with you that Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan have made Batman Begins a great Batman movie but Micheal Keaton and Tim Burton are still the FOR REAL Dynamic Duo. He only forgot which direction he was going in for a second in the first movie and it charmed Vickie Vale. It's called a "Joke". Get over it. It was not "Batman" it was "Bruce Wayne". BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG difference. Micheal Keaton portrayed both Bruce Wayne and Batman better than Val Kilmer and George Clooney combined. Batman was a killer in the first two films because Batman was at odds with the police in the first two Batman movies except with Commissioner Gordon. You have a retarded nerve for saying that Batman and Batman Returns were like James Bond flciks because both love intrests had reason and passion behind them while Dr. Chase Maridian became the first bat bimbo. She treated Batman as if he were a rebelious rock star that she could use for sex like a horny school girl and Batman went to her and RISKED HER GETTING HURT BY THOSE WHO WISH TO KILL THE BAT WHICH HAPPENED AT THE END. Now THAT ruins credibility! Bruce Wayne is a millionaire play boy to distract people from suspecting that he is secretly The Batman. He does use his alternate persona to get chicks and does date every woman he meets as both Bruce Wayne AND Batman. Joel Schumacher butchered Batman way more than Tim Burton did. Tim Burton is a blessing. Joel Schumacher is garbage. Joel Schumacher/Val Kilmer and Joel Schumacher/George Clooney are ****ing horrible cominations for Batman. Micheal Keaton and Tim Burton was an excellent combination for Batman. **** it. Micheal Keaton IS Batman. Saying "Thank god for Schumacher" about anything ruins your credibilty to argue and as a human being. You also can't say that Joel Schumacher is so great for not casting someone who is not his friend because Tim Burton handed down his would-have-been-trilogy to Joel Schumacher only because he was his friend so if you always wanted it to be that way Batman Forever would have been directed by Tim Burton and the Joel Schumacher Batman films would have either come ten years later in a NEW and "Different" trilogy where you can **** up Batman all you want with Robin, neon lights, and nipples or would have not have even existed. Tim Burton did not cast Micheal Keaton just because he was good friend with him but also because Micheal Keaton could tackle any role you through at him from comedy to a serious film which he proved in Batman and Batman Returns. He is like Jim Carey even though he sucked as The Riddler. Tim Burton is PIMP like that, yo. He told the true Batman fans to DEAL with it and they loved it. It's been done delt with, yo. Micheal Keaton was casted well and even though all Batman fans feared they would be in store for a campy Adam West style Batman they got the first dark portrayal of Batman on a mainstream scale since 1939. Be specific about what "Goon" you are talking about. Batman did beat the final ****** in the first Batman film blind folded. He tricked him into thinking he was winning so he could dust him off like an old coffee table. You are not mature enough to get that. Well, you know what? YOU SUCK ROYALLY!
I am not your dude. And your arguements are crippled not mine. Bruce Wayne was not an old bald man he was a great man portrayed by Micheal Keaton. But not TOO great or his cover is blown. Danny Devito was convincing you could not just accept it. Saying that everyone did not accept it is saying that everyone didn't accept the Joker. Watch Mask of the Phantasm THEN you can talk.You can laugh at The Penguin because you do not understand how tormented he was and if you do not get that you need to watch the movie again because you did not understand where Tim Burton was coming from by making The Penguin's character great. You can stay "True to the roots" but then no one likes The Penguins character because he was boring. This jazzes him up a bit and makes him awesome and dark. This has been happening since the very begining. When Detective Comics #27 came out it was not originally The Red Hood that fell into the acid and became The Joker. They changed this later on because it made the universe awesome and people did not ***** about it because their were no fans of the universe with some regular guy dying in a vat of chemicals and The Batman universe had no structure. People bitched about The Penguin's origins being changed later on because their was structure but that did not change the fact that it was cooler than just some random crime boss. Like The Riddler from the 1966 Batman series they did have a character but it either sucked or was non-existant until their revamped appearences made them awesome, noticable, and provoked geeks to to try to ***** out the wise decision of change. I laugh at anyone who says The Penguin is funny. He is not supposed to be. That is because all of the villains of the Batman universe are distinct from The Joker, who is the only one laughing. Tim Burton did not need The Joker to make a great Batman film because their were other personalities and emotions to explore with other villains but all Joel Schumacher could say to excuse the butchering of The Riddler's character was "At least The Riddler was funny" and that just makes us go "yeah...thats it". EXACTLY. The Penguin was ridiculed by society much like you are ridiculing his character now. You are just trying to be too cool and it's not working. You view villains in the first person. If they are funny you like them if they are ugly you make fun of them. You are like Catwoman in Batman Returns so if you want to see how your arguement ends up with the Penguin being a mutant freak just sit back and watch Batman Returns. It is called the third person. You are not on either side but merely watching from afar. The Batman almost did die in the first Batman films so if you want him to die it is interesting to see how he surrvives and if he can or not. Batman was not a coward he was realistic. If you watch Batman Begins at first he fights Ducard in ways that are not "Cowardly" with different fighting techniques but Ducard starts fighting with him dirty and wins and excalims that this was not a dance. Batman realized this in Batman Returns so he did not fight like a coward nor portray a dance...he fought like a man. The Batman. The Batman was at odds with the police in the first two films except with Commissioner Gordon but in Batman Forever, the sequel to Batman Returns, Batman is not at odds after commiting murder. Batman and Batman Returns had excellent screenwriting that was believable like Batman Begins. Commissioner Gordon said that their will be no vigilantes because of good writing. It had nothing to do with the director or actor. I agree with you that Batman Begins was a great movie but so was Batman and Batman Returns. Batman, Batman Returns, and Batman Begins are both good movies in their own right. Tim Burton's movies were believable because I believed it. Your arguement is not crippled. You have no arguement. A Batman sequel without Robin is not like Starskey and Hutch without Hutch or The Dukes of Hazzard with Luke Duke but no cousin Bo Duke and it is not the same thing. Those duos were together from THE START and if you are going to have Batman and Robin togethner you need to do it from the START like they did with Batman #1. You are saying that there should first be a movie with Starskey and then add Hutch in the sequel and The Dukes of Hazzard movie with Luke Duke in the first one and have Cousin Bo Duke added in the second one. Same thing. That has to be the biggest load of pig shit I have ever heard! If you want Robin then the first three Batman films should have been Batman alone just to show you how much cooler he is alone then start a whole new series by Joel Schumacher in a trilogy with an old Robin, neon lights, and nipples on the bat suit. That way you would get what you like without ruining the dark lone vigilante Batman I like. You said you liked Batman Begins with Batman being alone so I do not know why you insist on ruining it with Robin and a whole truck load of homosexual jokes that you and me combined would never be able to fight off. The first Batman film and Batman Returns was not too dark. It is impossible for Batman to be too dark. Batman is not a coward. Batman KILLS. Batman crossed the line and Beyond. If you want a likeable guy then read Superman or Spiderman comics. Batman Begins is a good movie in its own right and I respect the idea of Batman not killing anyone as long as it stays out of the real and only one true Batman universe. God Bless America.
There was realism in the first two Batman films because Batman was not some guy he was Batman and he was not treated like a hero they even say in the Batman films if Batman should be a friend or a foe. He is at odds with the police and society except for Commissioner Gordon but still fights for Gotham City even though they are fighting him along with the crimainals of Gotham City because he believes that Gotham City is not beyond saving. This is gone deeper into with Batman Begins if you want to really understand. They were thankful that Batman saved them at the end of the first film because they could have died. If we did not fight the war that America is in recently and kill the people who wish to do us harm we would have died and we are thankful for our troops and they are killers. It is realism because it happened in real life after those first two films. They were not boring as hell they were very interesting because it was not all action they were very deep films where conversations, circumstances, and mysteries would lead up to final battles instead of being meaningless violence. It is not nuts for a Batman film. It is a Batman film. You can laugh at The Penguin and that is what makes him great. You are not supposed to like him because he is misunderstood and if you watched movies from the third person instead of the first perons like a normal human being you would enjoy his character. Two Face was a fakeout The Joker who would easily be foiled by the police with his rediculous schemes defeating the purpose of needing Batman for him. You are right. Joel Schumacher's Two Face, The Riddler, Poison Ivy, Bane, and Mr.Freeze were not just wannabe The Jokers. YOU ARE! You make fun of the movies by explaining them comedically instead of portaying them in the sad-but-true light that Tim Burton did except you are not like Tim Burton because you do a horrible job doing it. Just have one The Joker. Tim Burton's The Joker, The Penguin, and Catwoman were better than Joel Schumacher's Two Face, The Riddler, Poison Ivy, Bane, and Mr.Freeze combined. Simple as that. The origin of Catwoman was all circumstance. What if she was not really brought to life by cats but they just wanted to eat her? What if she did not all those times but just happened to surrvive? It is possible and the times she died were surrvivable. Selina Kyle was just in a state of mind that she was Catwoman but was not actually meta-huaman just like The Penguin and The Joker. If you are a keen audience member you would realize that instead of believing the nonsense you make the Tim Burton films look like in your dim light. Batman and Batman Returns did not suck. YOU SUCK!
Tim Burton would have made Batman Forever better than Joel Schumacher did. The Batman Franchise was ressurected by the first movie. Micheal Keaton was not short, nor unmuscular, and not balding at all, and upright, and fought like a mother Micheal Keaton for the role of Batman and Bruce Wayne. It was amazing how everyone said that Micheal Keaton was the worst choice for Batman and now most people think he was the best one to ever play Batman and Bruce Wayne. He only forgot which direction to go for a second and the first Batman film and it was funny because he was distracted by how beautiful Vickie Vale was and she was charmed by this and it cripples the arguements that the first two Batman films were too dark and not funny. EXACTLY. Thank you for proving my point, my friend. He was not a bubling idiot he was like an ordianary man except he had a way with women that you could not begin to understand. No wnoder you do not get women because you think the only ways to get women are stupid. I think that Butthead from Beavis and Butthead put it best when he said "Sometimes you have to like...act like a wuss to get chicks and stuff". That's so true. Batman Returns was better than the first Batman. They did not develop the Batamn Character in the first Batman film because it was year one for Batman not the time during his training which is more like year zero and pre-Batman. His character develops by exploring his past whilst already amidst his future. The Penguin was not stupid because he was able to play a ****ing city like a harp from hell nor retarded he was just an animal with basic instincts and their is no ultimate goal to evolution so you have no arugment. You could releate to the parents of the Penguin the most because you hate him so much and are not mature enough to handle such a sophisticated such as Batman Returns. Commissioner Gordon was not as big in the comics as he was in Batman Begins so that is entirely new so you cannot blame it on the 1989 original and Batman Returns for not doing anything with that becaus all three are good films in their own right. You should bad mouth Batman Forever and Batman & Robin more than you do the first to films! r u retarded or something??? Micheal Keaton looked exactly like how Bruce Wayne looked. An oridinary man who is a millionaire playboy. Micheal Keaton can play any role you give him no matter what and Val Kilmer is just for show who will not stay for more than one movie who cannot act as well as Micheal Keaton can. Christian Bale rocks as hard as Micheal Keaton. You're shit, dickass. Micheal Keaton is 5'9 and he did not have a wig and he was a play boy, or as people say today, "Player" because he got in bed later. That is saying more than you can, NERD!!!
Then you come in kissing ass with your brown nose after all that talk about Batman Forever being "So great". Suckadick.
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First of all, sevendude. Relax, boy, you are being pretty inmature and childish for insulting the people only for critizing the batman movies. Have you some mental problems or something? We arent talking about your family or friends, only about movies. If you are soo poor that you need to post insults in stead of arguments, the discussion is dead . Being something clever and post reasonable arguments not crappy and childish insults.
The best batman was bale, not keaton. I agree that kilmer and clooney sucked in their performances as well,but at least, kilmer looked the part and portrayed the bruce wayne character as he is in the comics. Keaton didnt any of those things.
Agree with shumacher gay tone, it was terrible.
Keaton was a terrible batman and a terrible bruce wayne.
The real dynamic duo is Nolan-Bale. They did the first good batman movie and very loyal to the comics, with a great script, great lines and great performances. The burton-keaton duo was terrible because they did batman and his world in his own way, his own and weird way, not as he is.
Keaton is a good actor, but he was terrible in batman. The part isnt for him, he was a terrible casting choice.
Yeah, the dark tone was great, and the music. and michelle pfeiffer was catwoman. But everyting else in burton movies were crap.
Batman killing is awsonme? You have a very weird concept of the character. Batman is a detective and a heroe, not a killer. He hates the muder , because his parents were murdered. You should read the comics again to understand the character. Well, you and tim burton.
Michael keaton is short, out of sharpe and half bald. Look at him in mr mom or bettlejuice or johnny dangeroulsy.
Keaton and burton were pretty bad in the batman movies.
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The real batman is old??? Man, read the comics again. Bale and kilmer were in the right age when they did the batman movies, keaton not.
Devito is a great actor , but he was terrible in batman returns. Maybe is the scripters fault, but he was awful. Burton did a very weird thing with the penguin and not, you are posting lies, NOT ANYBODY LIKED AND ACEPT IT. Even the dc comics people and the warner bross people disliked that freak version of the penguin.
Yeah, the riddler was terrible. Very gay. But the penguin wasnt less terrible. A freak idiot without any intelligence. The penguin is supposed to be very clever. The origin of the character was a joke, rised by penguins in a sewer. The penguin sucked. If they would go with the comics character with some variations, like a gangter , it would be a lot more interesting, not that elephant man bad copycat. " Im not a man, im a animal". Pretty stupid.
The penguin and catwoman origins were pretty stupid and unrealistic. Devito performance, as nicholson, was histroinic and over the top. See his speech to the penguins, one of the worst speechs ever. And penguins with missiles at his back. Very mature and realistic.
Batman forever and batman and robin were as different and unloyal as batman and batman returns. As you saying that batman and returns are loyal to the comics?? Man, read the comics.
Yeah, batman forever and batman and robin sucked. But batman and returns too. And keaton looked pretty bad, a 5'8 guy trying to be batman. It was ridiculous.
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Stop the insults, dude. You are behaving like a 7 years old boy posting insults.
Hahahaha, that is pretty good. You are a true batman fan? You are acepting those unfaithful and unloyal batman films by tim burton and you are a true batman fan??. A true batman fan is the one who hates the four previous movies an understand that batman begins is the only one good and loyal movie. And the thing that we understand is that the burton movies were pretty bad movies, and unloyal to the characters, as the schumacher movies were.
Hahahaha, batman killing is true to the character. Man, what are you talking about??? Could you post more lies that the ones that you are posting??? Because your arguments are pretty false and laughables.
Batman forever sucked. Batman and robin sucked. Batman sucked. Batman returns sucked. Batman begins rules.
If burton wanted to do that, make another movie about another character. Not batman. Is like a director wants to do a movie about a 60 years old spider man. That isnt spider man or peter parker. Go and make another movie about another character.
Batman had control of the fight all the time?? That guy kicked his ass and he only could beat him tricking him. What movie did you see?
And dont post that stupid excuse about " the guy was the strongest of the jokers goons". That guy was only strong, batman is a master of all the fight styles and martial arts. He could beat that guy in 10 seconds or less.
Keaton was a terrible bruce wayne. He didnt look the part and his acting was goofy and stupid. Bruce wayne is a cool play boy, like kilmer or bale played him. Again, you need to read the comics.
Dont mix the things, batman begins is THE ONLY TRUE MOVIE to the batman character. The another four movies sucked in one way of another.
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Again, you are so full about batman returns and you even dont remember the movie. See the scene with bruce and selina in wayne manor, see when he go to the batcave and didnt remember it. See the scene in the elevator, he was a wuss, a total and insecure idiot. That isnt bruce wayne.
The scripters did a terrible job in batman and batman returns. Not origin, not enought character development, too much focus on the villains, bad lines, etc.
Yeah,batman and bruce wayne are different, but keaton didnt play any of them as they are in the comics.
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Yeah, the schumacher movies were pretty bad, as bad as the burton movies. But, bad actors??? Tommy lee jones is a bad actor??? Michael gough is??? Uma thurman is??? Pat hingle is???jim carrey is??? Their performances are bad, but they are very far to being bad actors.
Again, you are being a childish kid postin insults. Leave batman alone you, because defending the burton movies you are being everything but not a true batman fan.
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keaton brought no crediblity to the role because he did not come even close to fitting the role and acted like a goofy idiot not remembering where he was in the mansion,thats not batman.Kilmer portrayed Wayne much better than keaton did.the dark roots of batman that burton did was make him into a cowardly killer,that butchered to death his character. 
If anybody played a wooden horny depressed bruce wayne,that would be keaton.Keaton just tried to copy chris reeves great performance from superman by being cool as batman and a goofy nerd as bruce wayne.Kilmers wayne was at least loyal to the comic bruce wayne by being suave and charming with the women the same way Bale was in Batman Begins.
