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jrodslam
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Imo, Batman89 is the best. Followed by Begins and Returns.


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Old Post Oct 27th, 2005 05:31 AM
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Hey I dont have time to look through every mistake I make when I get on the net because Im always rushed all the time.As soon as you stop making points that are insane then the rolleyes will dissapear.

That was not a tactic of his.He only got lucky by falling into that hole,that wasnt planned.He just took advantage of his luck that he got at that moment.


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Originally posted by Joker1237
Red Hood vs Batman, Batman kills Red Hood in his sleep,

Detectvie comics no 32, Octber 1939.


Proof.

The guy was a sleep, and Batman opens fire on the Red Hood and his mistress. I mean you complain about Burton;s Batman killing, but the early Batman was more of a cold blooded killer.


Well Like I said before,even if that really did happen in the comics that doesnt mean it should happen in the movie that he should kill like a coward.Its not at all realistic for him to kill criminals and for the police to not care about that to not hunt him down like a murderer.The comics you can get away with it but a movie you cant because there is a fine line on realisem and Burton crossed that line big time.

btw,now that we are talking about batman killing people in cowardly ways I was flipping through channels last night and by accident I came across batman returns and I have tried to forget that other horrible burton movie so I forgot about the other instance where he gets the batmobiles engines in front of that goon of the penguins and purposely ignites the engines flaming him.Man Burton made him into just as much of a sadistic killer as Joker is and no better a person than criminals are.After sitting through that crapfest last night,I was reminded why I cant sit thorugh that one.as horrible of a story as batman 89 is,the screenplay for batman returns is twice as worse.The character of penguin was a disgrace to the comics.The joker was at least well done.


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Originally posted by Mr Parker
Well Like I said before,even if that really did happen in the comics that doesnt mean it should happen in the movie that he should kill like a coward.Its not at all realistic for him to kill criminals and for the police to not care about that to not hunt him down like a murderer.The comics you can get away with it but a movie you cant because there is a fine line on realisem and Burton crossed that line big time.

btw,now that we are talking about batman killing people in cowardly ways I was flipping through channels last night and by accident I came across batman returns and I have tried to forget that other horrible burton movie so I forgot about the other instance where he gets the batmobiles engines in front of that goon of the penguins and purposely ignites the engines flaming him.Man Burton made him into just as much of a sadistic killer as Joker is and no better a person than criminals are.After sitting through that crapfest last night,I was reminded why I cant sit thorugh that one.as horrible of a story as batman 89 is,the screenplay for batman returns is twice as worse.The character of penguin was a disgrace to the comics.The joker was at least well done.


i had trouble sitting through Batman 89...so i just skipped chapters to the non boring parts.


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Originally posted by SpyCspider
I thought Batman in his first movie was more of a boogeyman..the way they portrayed him. He wasn't supposed to be "in your face, i'll kick ur ass" sorta guy. Kinda like how they did him in Batman Begins as well...he just appears and disappears

Look at him in the VERY FIRST scene. He let those guys shoot bullets into him, he fell, and the moment they turned around, they saw his shadow come up and then he kicked their asses. Same as the alley scene when they were about to take off his mask. He's always playing dead....so he can come back to life and be more intimidating.

His defeating that goon served the same purpose. He let the guy tire himself out and throw a few punches at him, relying on armor to protect him. And guess what? IT WORKED. The guy threw him off the ledge and the next moment, two legs come up to grab him and toss him off. That's just the way he's portrayed. You hit him and just when you think he's done for, he comes back to haunt you.

and dude...I CAN BEAT UP the Joker. Batman not showing how hurt he was when he was beating up Joker means nothing. It just means Joker can't fight for sh*t...why else would he needs thugs protecting him? And when Joker did punch him, he just stood there and let his armor do the work. That's the essence of the what scares the sh*t out of criminals..the fact that Batman is this fearful presence that just can't be killed.


by thw way your tactics point is irrelevent here because the point me and bakerboy are making here is that as anybody with logic and common sense knows,Batman was loosing that battle with that goon,thats bullshit that he let that goon tire himself out,he was trying as best as he could to beat him and your post is saying he wasnt so bakerboy is correct,that is bullshit that he was letting that guy tire himself out.he was trying his best to beat him and could not and that was a joke because the batman from the comics could easily have beat that guy in 10 seconds or less if he wanted to but burtons batman made him into a wuss and betrayed his character.you get rolleyes from me because you make insane points that are untrue.


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Originally posted by mattador
If you all would actually read the comicbooks you would know how insane it is to make those kind of statements.
If we read the comic books we'd actually be losers.


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In Batman returns,The ''penquin'' was like some big ugly faat freak and was horribly done


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Originally posted by sevenman
If we read the comic books we'd actually be losers.


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Originally posted by kmcdude
In Batman returns,The ''penquin'' was like some big ugly faat freak and was horribly done


Thats just one example why Batman Returns just like Batman 89 was such a horrible movie. sick btw,what made you decide to resurrect this thread KMC dude?

and damn,why did they have to allow sevenman to come back,I thought he had been banned for good. mad well no matter,the way he conducts himself,its just a matter of time before he gets himself banned permanetely.


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Originally posted by pmike
OMG some peeps are taking this way to seriously,please out of curiosity how long does it take to write essay answers?????i doubt anyone reads them
now for my opinion B89 and BR rocked bigtime,it showed a dark and gothic side to batman,and you say he killed joker and penguin right,well i dont think he killed them,he just didnt save them.which is what he did to ra's in BB so dont say batman never killed anyone in BB


wow this post is way off base.Batman killed the joker,people who say he didnt are living in a fantasy world,he should have been wanted for murder at the end by the police regardless of the jokers past actions.The police would never have allowed someone to take the law into their own hands like that.thats the HUGE difference between burton and nolans films,burtons batman movies murdered people,Nolans batman just didnt save people like ra's al goul and his mentor,HUGE difference.some of the burton apologists like this guy just dont get that though. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by Mr Parker


and damn,why did they have to allow sevenman to come back,I thought he had been banned for good. mad well no matter,the way he conducts himself,its just a matter of time before he gets himself banned permanetely.


Agreed.

He's a dirty racist.


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Originally posted by Mr Parker
Thats just one example why Batman Returns just like Batman 89 was such a horrible movie. sick btw,what made you decide to resurrect this thread KMC dude?

and damn,why did they have to allow sevenman to come back,I thought he had been banned for good. mad well no matter,the way he conducts himself,its just a matter of time before he gets himself banned permanetely.


I kmow the thread is a bit old,but I were going to start a thread on how much these movies sucked,but decided to post in here big grin


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batman begins is sick so is batman 89...batman return is an okay movie...the rest just suck


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I think what he MEANT to say was Batman 89 is sick so is Batman Returns.Batman Begins is an okay movie... the rest just suck.More than likely,thats what he meant to say.I no Xam better than that than to say that Batman Begins was sick.


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wow this post is way off base.Batman killed the joker,people who say he didnt are living in a fantasy world,he should have been wanted for murder at the end by the police regardless of the jokers past actions.The police would never have allowed someone to take the law into their own hands like that.thats the HUGE difference between burton and nolans films,burtons batman movies murdered people,Nolans batman just didnt save people like ra's al goul and his mentor,HUGE difference.some of the burton apologists like this guy just dont get that though. roll eyes (sarcastic)


well consider me living in a fantasy world then...cause to me it's all the same....Batman wanted to catch the Joker, prevent him to escape. Sure he wanted to kill him. But he was trapped by a statue, which caused him to fall. Same as with Batman Begins. Now that is a kill too. Batman knew he would die if he didn't rescue him out of that train. So what is the difference?


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I enjoyed both Batman 89 and Batman Returns and loved Batman Begins a bit more. But I absolutely despise Batman and Robin and Batman Forever. My point is Batman 89 and Batman Returns were not bad movies. Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were the bad movies.


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for the umpteenh time,ALL the burton/schumacher batman movies were crap.sheesh. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by Mr Parker
for the umpteenh time,ALL the burton/schumacher batman movies were crap.sheesh. roll eyes (sarcastic)


In YOUR opinion.

Respect other people's.

You should know this better than most,regarding how you were treated at SHH on your opinions about the Spider-Man movies.


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oh man,I give up trying to convince you guys.


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