I registered originally as Goth, got banned for being 12 and then remade my account as Tecknoyashi. I lost the information for it and created this one.
Sounds good, I'll check it out man. I like Adventure Time but haven't seen that much of it yet, but it has that 'classic' feel and it's weird as hell so it gets plus points from me
I got permabanned for being an idiot in 2009. Never thought I'd find myself back here, but Imped was nice enough to start letting some of us 'oldies' (well, 2006/7 – 2010 era) back.
Equality is what we should strive for, and it sometimes takes being blunt about it to make a point. If you aren't being offensive, then people getting offended is more their problem than anyone else's
I couldn't agree with you more.
If given the chance I'd snag back my old account. I remember the password and everything to it, I just don't remember the email's password I used for it.
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I think you are coming from a good place, and I believe you are for equality. However it is not as easy as looking at a situation without the circumstances to compare whether they are equal.
For example, being straight, there is no stigma attached to it. If you tell your parents you are straight you don't have to fear that they will disown you, you don't have to fear violent repercussions from people around you for it, in fact, you don't even have to tell them, cause they'll already be assuming it. So the circumstances, the starting position, is different. As such, you shouldn't look at it as the parents of that child giving them special treatment because of throwing them a party. It is really more them trying to make a situation that is unequal (i.e. their child having to worry about their sexuality, and people's reaction to it) a bit better and more equal by showing the child that they support them fully.
Now, the same goes for gay pride parades on a grander scale. Homosexual people have to deal with things that heterosexual people never have to consider, that's not fair to them. Society passively, and some people actively, attack the value and the self esteem of homosexual people. Whether that's by not finding themselves represented in media, their peers joking about this or that being gay and those "f*gs", or a myriad of other ways. That's the circumstances in which gay pride parades exist. They are not about saying we are special, and we deserve special treatment. It's about giving a group that's often invisible, and if they aren't invisible often derided or attacked, an outlet to claim their equal share in pride, as any other person.
Again, the message being sent is not one about superiority or demands for special treatment, it is in essence saying "We are a minority, but we deserve to be equally proud of ourselves as the heterosexual majority"
So, I do think you are a good person, and you strive for equality, but when you say you would accept your son, that's wonderful, but also think about how so many people in the rest of the world would not accept him, how his life would be different, because of this silly, trivial fact about him, and then think about whether you wouldn't double down to make sure your son gets as close to the equal treatment he deserves, even if that means you have to give him "special treatment" compared to a straight child, that does not need to worry about these issues.
Throwing a party for someone coming out as homosexual is harmless, and I don't see why folks would have a problem with it. People have a tendency to assume anyone who is "celebrating" something that they themselves aren't experiencing take it as that they somehow ARENT worth celebrating.
This is not the case.
The party that you are describing is not to celebrate being gay. It's not celebrating being "better than straight" either. It sounds like this family is throwing a party as a show of support. We don't have "celebration for being straight" party because that's not difficult, or worth celebrating - the party in question here is to show the individual that they are LOVED and that they are not going to be disowned.
Being gay is something that people are bullied over. That people are ridiculed over. That they are humiliated publically for in school, the Internet, movies and media. People are killed over it. The abuse they suffer from immature people has caused thousands of gay folks to kill themselves.
Coming out of the closet would be terrifying. There are people who wouldn't talk to you anymore. The bullying could grow worse. These are truths.
The party isn't some kind of "Hooray you're gay and now you're sassy and fun!"
The party is to bring your family and friends together in a show of support. To show them that they will not turn their back on them. That brave person willing to come out will not be disowned or hated and lose their family.
Personally, if I was gay, I wouldn't want a big deal made out of it. We live in way more accepting times than ever before, and I'd just want to be able to get on with my life and not have a big deal made of the fact that I like men and not women.
But if it was in a very conservative area, maybe throwing a Coming Out Party would be a good thing – a **** you to the ignorant cünts in the surrounding area. It all depends on the context (as does everything).
I'm just a straight white cis male though, so I dunno. But personally, I wouldn't throw my kid a coming out party because to me it makes no difference what sexuality they are I'd want them to accept that. Otherwise it might make them feel like them being gay is them being 'different', which to me they aren't. They shouldn't be specifically 'proud to be gay' – they should just be proud to be who they are, no matter what they are.
But coming back to my other thing, if this was twenty/thirty (even ten) years ago, I might throw him/her a party, and encourage him to be specifically proud to be gay, because that would help bring around social change and further homosexuality being accepted as a normal part of human life.
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