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I don't recall him okaying her OHKO ability. It is a OHKO ability, she KO's Taurus, the power is meant to explode inanimate objects from what Mungi tells me.


No I didn't, I said it doesn't blow up people. It speeds up the molecules tearing them apart. It doesn't blow them up.


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dizzle's already okayed both her speed and ability to speed up molecules, and it isn't even a ohko. his reason for her bann is the ability to hypnotize people with her light, which she has only done successfully once, but dazzler has done the same thing more than once, and she is still here.


Ability to speed up molecules IS OHKO.


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No I didn't, I said it doesn't blow up people. It speeds up the molecules tearing them apart. It doesn't blow them up.
Yes, but I'm simplifying. "The power can tear apart inanimate objects. However only knocks out people." Better?


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Yes, but I'm simplifying. "The power can tear apart inanimate objects. However only knocks out people." Better?


Sure, I really have no idea how this new power works though.


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lp....ironman 2020? hes more powerful than ironman.....


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Phantazia can mess around with peoples bio electric fields , effectively paralyzing them , paralyzing is not allowed as is levitation which is counted as Tk.



iron-man has paralyzed people, you could paralyze someone by hitting the right spot in the body, besides she was never able to paralyze anyboy in the past. she doesn't levitate, she flies, but not with tk.

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A. Her powers can be using a similar manner to dazzler's effectively causing hypnosis.


dazzler IS allowed, so why not aurora

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B. She is a wild-card. Her current speed is unknown so we can't accept her. For all we know her speed could excel Mach Ten .....


dizzle already accepted her speed

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I don't recall him okaying her OHKO ability. It is a OHKO ability, she KO's Taurus, the power is meant to explode inanimate objects from what Mungi tells me.


first, anything can be considered an ohko. if iron-man hits someone with one of his beams, and they are knocked out, is that considered an ohko? if so, then why is he allowed in this. say dazzler knocks someone out with one of her photon blasts, then is that an ohko. do you get the point? aurora knocked someone out who doesn't even have that much durability, if any. this power hasn't been fully described, but consiering it was used against someone who isn't that durable, and they didn't even get a scratch, it's dobtfull it makes objects explode.

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Dazzler from what I've read doesn't exert any real control with her light powers


she can by using the light to directly influence the mind

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Ability to speed up molecules IS OHKO.


no it's not. if this ability is consdiered an ohko, then so is anyone with super-strength, dazzler, iron-man, warbird, basically anyone that could take someone out with one hit. aurora knocked someone that doesn't have high durability out w/ one hit, anyone i mentionec could do the excact same thing.

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Ummm i'd like to point out that Phantazia doesn't cancel out powers. She cancels peoples Bio-Electricity to freeze them up , so when cannonball was in flight he would freeze up because his entire body (which includes the parts that activate his power) turn off.

It still makes it a OHKO though , because freezing somebody's body can technically kill them i think.....


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Yes, yes, she does. He once shut off Cannonballs powers so Sauron could stab him.



Umm, what about Mimic?


no, she didn't shut off his field, just made it unreliable, and unpredictable. he had his field, sauron was just powerful enough to break through, like the fury did. and i didn't argue for mimic, i argued for what powers he would recieve, but never argued for the character itself.

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Ummm i'd like to point out that Phantazia doesn't cancel out powers. She cancels peoples Bio-Electricity to freeze them up , so when cannonball was in flight he would freeze up because his entire body (which includes the parts that activate his power) turn off.

It still makes it a OHKO though , because freezing somebody's body can technically kill them i think.....


in every appearance phantazia was in, she never froze anyone, and i have almost every appearance, she only had like 12. and i might add that she was beaten by storm, and was knocked out by a rock.

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Changing Iron Monger for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_M...s_and_abilities Iron Man 2020

Dude, regular Iron Man is right at the limits. No way is a more powerful version allowable.

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http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dhminion.htm Is deathshead too much?

Hell yes he is.

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It still makes it a OHKO though , because freezing somebody's body can technically kill them i think.....

Exactly. It's a sounds like a unblockable move that renders you unable to fight back. Just give it up Storm.

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lp....ironman 2020? hes more powerful than ironman.....

Not at all. If anything, he's inferior.

Class 50 and equal to 80's ironman.


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Storm was knocked out by a rock too. It doesn't mean she can't control the weather.


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Cutting off someones bio-eletric field IS freezing somebody , if you cut off their field their heart would stop beating and they wouldn't be able to move due to their spine being frozen....


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Dude, regular Iron Man is right at the limits. No way is a more powerful version allowable.

He's not more powerful to today's ironman. Class 50 compared to class 100. He's inferior in some ways and equal in most.


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He's not more powerful to today's ironman. Class 50 compared to class 100. He's inferior in some ways and equal in most.

The wiki link says nothing about being class 50.

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Storm was knocked out by a rock too. It doesn't mean she can't control the weather.


storm was knocked out by a lot of debri, moving at hurricane, phantazia was knocked out by a stone thrown by havok

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http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ironman2020.htm
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Powers/Abilities: His armor grants him superhuman strength Class 50 +
He's just Ironman from a different reality who was equal to 80's ironman. Nothing more.
I just don't like Iron Monger.


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Cutting off someones bio-eletric field IS freezing somebody , if you cut off their field their heart would stop beating and they wouldn't be able to move due to their spine being frozen....


phantazia has never done that, because for one, she has never killed anyone, and the instance you started talking about with cannonball, she didn't cut off his powers. when she did the same thing to storm, storms powers didn't go away, and storm still defeated her

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