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Nellinator
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1) Depends. Many are uniformed of what the scripture actually says (English Bible only people) and others have a blatant disregard for the unity of all Scripture. Sometimes even disregard for the two verses adjacent to a given verse. I think there is more than one logically valid conclusion on many theologies, but they generally aren't far removed from each other. The filoque for example.

2) No, the Bible isn't the only way. But to get to those other places the Bible is needed.

3) No, it's not clear. The Bible makes it clear that God does not expect us to understand everything about Him. We humans have a hard time separating anything from the flesh, so our understanding of spiritual things tends to be flawed. That is why I go with what we have and then focus on the three greatest things God has given us: faith, hope, and love.

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Originally posted by Deano
i never said i believes in reptillians. Im suggesting anything is possible


Oh, you've got me rolling on the floor! I don't think he was accusing you of believing in reptilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian
http://dictionary.reference.com/sea...amp;q=reptilian
Like you said, anything is possible. Maybe lizards really do exist eek!

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What if it was proved that the Bible and other religions were based on Astrology, would it change your views on your beliefs? Would you throw something out and keep others? What would be throw out?


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The Holy Bible is not based on astrology.

The Old Testament deals primarily with the relationship between God and the nation of Israel. The Pentateuch deals with the creation of Israel and God establishing a covenant relationship with Israel. The historical books record Israel's history, its victories and successes along with its defeats and failures. The poetic books give us a more intimate look at God's relationship with Israel and His passion for Israel to worship and obey Him. The prophetic books are God's call to Israel to repent from its idolatry and unfaithfulness and to return to a relationship of obedience and spiritual fidelity.

And the New Testament: the Gospels give us four different, yet not conflicting, accounts of the birth, life, ministry, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The Gospels demonstrate how Jesus was the promised Messiah of the Old Testament and lay the foundation for the teaching of the rest of the New Testament. The book of Acts records the deeds of Jesus' apostles, the men Jesus sent out into the world to proclaim the Gospel of salvation. Acts tells us of the beginning of the church and its rapid growth in the first century A.D. The Pauline Epistles, written by the Apostle Paul, are letters to specific churches--giving official Christian doctrine and the practice that should follow that doctrine. The General Epistles compliment the Pauline Epistles with additional teaching and application. The book of Revelation prophesies the events that will occur in the end times.

The New Testament is a powerful and rewarding study. The New Testament tells us of Jesus' death on the cross on our behalf--and what our response should be to His death. The New Testament focuses on giving solid Christian teaching along with the practical results that should follow that teaching.

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and the Lord of the Rings give us account of the bravery and deeds of the hobbits.....................so? One adventures book beat the other and the Lord of The Rings is a good read while the bible...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Boring out of date religious swada


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never argue with an idiot, they only drag you down to their level and beat you by experience

Guess that will save me the time of trying to argue with you, then.


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actually, the new interpretation and myths/occult based on the bible is much more interesting than the bible itself. the person who wrote the bible must have been one of the most inanimat person in thiw world, on grounds of the kinda silly lamguage it uses.

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Yeah, that one person who wrote it.


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heheehee. i meant GOD! as most people beleive.

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Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Could you please explain to me how, exactly, Christ marked the "age of Pisces"? Furthermore, the idea that Moses instructed the Israelites to destroy the golden calf because it was the end of the "age of Taurus" is ridiculous, as is the suggestion that the sacrificial lambs and rams were used to mark the "age of Aries."

Good grief. Because, like, the Israelites wouldn't ever sacrifice lambs and rams.


Um the age of pisces started at 1AD. Jesus is said to have been born exactly then. pisces uses the symbol of two fish. fish are COMMONLY talked about in the bible -- fishermen, the time when those 500 people only had a loaf of bread and TWO fish -- and jesus made more.

The sun's location and other astrological characteristics on every important jesus-related religious date directly relate to beliefs -- the sun stops going south on dec 21 and stays there for 3 days. on dec 25th it goes one degree north-- representing both the "after 3 days he was resurrected" and "the birth of the son" OR sUn. jesus is also called "the LIGHT of the world". and alllso when the disciples asked jesus where they could find him again/ when "He said unto them, 'Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.'" Luke 22:10
the man bearing the pitcher of water is aquarius-- who is always portrayed carrying and pouring a jug of water.

And then how do you explain the random circle we put on the cross?
on the 3 days in which the sun is "resting", it sits exactly in the line of the "crux" constellation-- or "cross". the sun rests at the spot where the circle is placed on the cross for christianity.
soo many of these things are taken from paganism. there are wayyyy too many similarities for everything contradictory about every religion 's bible stories, etc, for them all to be coincidences.

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It was a good thing when this thread died.


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Um the age of pisces started at 1AD. Jesus is said to have been born exactly then.


Christ was born in 4BC. There was a calculation error when the calender was made.

Also how could Jesus be born one year after his birth anyway?


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This is our American and Christian heritage...........Read back.


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Genesis: Age of Taurus

"Cattle is mentioned numerous times; more than any other animal."

Exodus and rest of OT: Age of Aries

"Sheep/Ram are mentioned more than any other animal."

NT: Age of Pisces

"Fish are mentioned more than any other animal (specifically 2)"

After Pisces: Age of Aquarius

"When I am gone, you will see a man bearing a pitcher of water. Follow him into the house from where he entereth in."


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Genesis: Age of Taurus

"Cattle is mentioned numerous times; more than any other animal."

Exodus and rest of OT: Age of Aries

"Sheep/Ram are mentioned more than any other animal."

NT: Age of Pisces

"Fish are mentioned more than any other animal (specifically 2)"

After Pisces: Age of Aquarius

"When I am gone, you will see a man bearing a pitcher of water. Follow him into the house from where he entereth in."


evidence?

Sheep and Goats are mentioed the same number of times or around it...

then there are pigs.

Also- is it not possible that astrology is just part of Gods plans...


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evidence?

Sheep and Goats are mentioed the same number of times or around it...

then there are pigs.

Evidence?

http://bibleq.com/search?entqr=0&am...10&filter=0

http://bibleq.com/search?entqr=0&am...10&filter=0

Also, there are many names like "ram". Abraham, Abram etc.

Joseph was described as wealthy in cattle, Abraham sacraficed a ram.

Since you mentioned pig, I decided to look at it:

http://bibleq.com/search?q=exodus+p...mp;site=biblecc

http://bibleq.com/search?q=genesis+...mp;site=biblecc

http://bibleq.com/search?q=genesis+...mp;site=biblecc

http://bibleq.com/search?q=exodus+b...mp;site=biblecc

Need any more proof?


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Also- is it not possible that astrology is just part of Gods plans...
Possible...but just that. It's also possible God is a great dick, and nothing more, and if that were so, there would be people linking it to other phallic religions claiming it to be wrong because of it, but enough about what's possible.


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All religion is based on early man looking to the stars and being curious

ancient people had some of the most dedicated astronomers, so much so, that out of the thousands of objects in the sky, they were able to discern every planet visible to the eye just because it had different movement each night than stars, which have uniform movement across the sky. They knew the frequency of their appearance and built calendars off of them. Often, these planets were thought to be "gods" (especially given the seasonal appearance of them).

From there, we get the earliest myths of harvest and flood gods, which became polytheism, and eventually monotheism. So, in a very roundabout way, religion and the bible have strong roots in stargazing, whether you want to call it astronomy or astrology.

The idea that the bible represents modern new age astronomy as it deals with the age of aquarius and the like is, obviously, wrong. Confirmation bias explains each example XYZ has mentioned above, and were I more familiar with the bible, I would simply go through each book and find any other thing that is mentioned occasionally and claim the bible is actually a hidden code for those things. Its the exact same principle as the bible code, which is demonstrably an example of confirmation bias.


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Should read "The greatest story ever sold".


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how is a book about modern mainstream media, from the period of 9-11 to Katrina (which is included in the subtitle of the book), relevant to what I posted above?

EDIT: I'm assuming you mean this book http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Stor...e/dp/159420098X


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They both involve words. That's about it.


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