Huh? No, that's not what I meant. Look, we know that Jesus didn't say all the things he's quoted as saying in the Gospels, right? He couldn't have, since different Gospels have him saying different things on the same occassion. So what I'm suggesting is that if the "not a jot" bit doesn't sound like Jesus--and it doesn't, given how little regard he shows for some of the Jewish law--and the only person who attests to this saying is Matthew, a Jew who has been known to alter and invent stuff to make Jesus sound more "Jewish"--than Matthew might be the source for that saying, not Jesus.
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i think that the newspaper shouldnt have printed the picture..but the raddicals that are storming the danish embassys should stop that as the country isnt directly to blame for the editors decision to print it
There's nothing wrong with these, kind of stupid but nothing really disrespectful IMO. http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/
They saidd they didn't mean to insult islam and when the same cartoons were published in the egyptian paper 4 months ago there was no protest. The only one that mmight bbe offensive is theee one with the bomb but that was in the egyptian paper 4 months ago.
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The muslims on another forum said they were origenaly published by the news paper in denmark but they were published in egypt in october of last year and there was no protests made. http://freedomforegyptians.blogspot...tures-that.html
No Danish Treatment for an Egyptian Newspaper
I promised you in my previous post to bring you the images of the Egyptian newspaper, Al Fager (as pronounced in Egyptian Arabic) that published the Danish Cartoons five month ago on Oct 17, 2005. Here is below the front page where the Prophet Muhammed(PBUH) cartoon from Jyllands-Posten was published.
A closer look. The text says in Arabic that a special reportage is inside. Mind you that this is the holy Muslim month of Ramadan. While Muslims are worshipping in this holy month, not a single protest was called in Cairo against Denmark or the newspaper.
Here is an image for page 17 where the whole report was published with 6 cartoons as published in Jyllands-Posten.
The two Egyptian editors, Ahmed Abel Maksound and Youssera Zaharan, from Al Fager newspaper. And from their names I could tell you that they are Muslims and there is no news on arresting them as the case in Jordan few days ago
Here is the front page with a closer look on the date , Monday October 17, 2005
Two days ago the editor in chief of Al Fager Adel Hammouda wrote an article expressing his surprise why this war is suddenly launched after 4 months. He indicates as I said in my previous post that it is politically motivated to hide more corrupt issues behind. And he is not apologizing for publishing the cartoons as the Danish newspaper did. Instead, he is proud his paper was first to publish. Denmark Cartoons absent Real Democracy Battle in Egypt
Previously:Cartoons were Published Five Months ago in Egypt,Boycott the Boycott
Denmark, Do not Apologize
Denmark Cartoons absent Real Democracy Battle in Egypt
Why Egyptians are not torching Danish Embassies?
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I think somebody did. http://www.zaytuna.org/articleDetails.asp?articleID=92
It is as if we are saying, “We’ll show the Kafirs our Prophet, peace upon him was no terrorist! We’ll defame the symbols of their religion [2] burn their embassies, murder their unsuspecting innocents, and behead the bloody cartoonist if we get our hands on him.” [3]
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They haave printed 13 articles explaining their long history of satyr and they didn't mean to offend islam. They asked for pictures, not cartoons but some imams or somebody sent them cartoons. The danish imamss made some of the more racy ones and brought them to the mid east. http://www.zaytuna.org/articleDetails.asp?articleID=92
When the crisis initially broke in September, it was barely a blip on the media radar. Few outside of Denmark even knew of the cartoons. The Danish Muslim community, appropriately, by and large ignored the story. [1] It was only after a campaign undertaken by a delegation of Danish Muslim community activists to stimulate greater interest in the issue that the crisis reached the proportions we are currently witnessing. These activists traveled throughout the Muslim East trying to draw attention to the issue. When the issue was popularized by Iqra and other Arab satellite channels, and the cartoons were reprinted by several European papers, the crisis deepened.
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I don't know but they did. The editor of the Syrian Regime's daily, Tishrin, Muhammad Kheir Al_Wadi, wrote an article (January 31, 2000) in which he denies the Holocaust and accuses Zionism of being worse than Nazism. The article, titled "The Plague of the Third Millenium", was published in the backdrop of the trial of Holocaust denier David Irving in England and the international conference on the Holocaust that was recently held in Stockholm.
"The Nazi war-machine annihilated more than 50 million lives, including Russians, Poles, French, Italians, and people of other nationalities. However, Zionism erased the blood of all those victims from the human [collective] memory and focused on the suffering of the Jews during the war. This, despite the fact that there is sound historical proof that Zionist leaders collaborated with the Nazis in order to escalate the Jewish Problem. Furthermore, some of them did not hesitate to commit murders and direct terror attacks [against Jews] in order to encourage Jewish immigration to Palestine. This, of course, in full cooperation with the German Nazi leaders..."
"Zionism hides the dark chapters of its black history. It invents stories regarding the Nazi Holocaust in which the Jews suffered and inflates them to astronomic proportions..."
"The problem is not in the Zionist ambition to forge history, but rather in the Zionist organizations' ambitions to revive their distorted version of history and use it to deceive international public opinion, win its empathy, and blackmail it..."
"Israel and the Zionist organizations strive for two goals: first, to be granted more funds from Germany and European states and institutions; second, they want to use the legend of the Holocaust as a sword hanging over the necks of all those who oppose Zionism who are accused of anti-Semitism..." (1)
"The countries of the world, that fiercely condemned the crimes of Nazism, [should] adamantly oppose the new Nazi Plague that breeds in Israel and whose poisons and dangers are being spread wherever it reaches..."
"This is a kind of ideological and physical terrorism that was known even in the darkest centuries in Europe. While history turned the page on the Nazi acts, the Zionist terrorist acts reached their peak. They committed massacres against innocent people and led a policy of aggression and expansion. This is the plague of the twentieth century that was passed to the third millennium and it spread destruction in every place it reached..." (2)
"The Zionists try to strangle any voice that reveals the truth... However, these voices [Holocaust deniers like Roger Garaudy and David Irving who were mentioned in the text] and other such voices have already left their marks on European public opinion and media who have started to raise questions that refresh the memory and establish the truth that was distorted by the Zionists..."
"This stream [of Holocaust deniers] has cast fear in the hearts of the Zionist movement that quickly convened a conference on the Holocaust in Stockholm in order to turn the Zionist lies into common knowledge..."
"The Zionist effort does not stop at paralyzing human memory, it also tries to shatter logic and distort reality. Israel, that presents itself as the heir of Holocaust victims, has committed and still commits much more terrible crimes than those committed by the Nazis. The Nazis did not expel a whole nation nor buried people and prisoners alive, as the Zionists did." (3)
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The Hebrew anti-islamic graffiti on the dome of the rock today (probably tagged by some JDL moron) doesn't help either.
On the flipside, i'd like to remind everyone that quite a few important arab leaders, including Arafat's uncle, where quite chummy with Hitler
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Some muslim activists in Denmark took those drawings plus some of their own, which were more blasphemous than what the cartoonists drew to the middle east and started this whole thing. http://bibelen.blogspot.com/2006/01...le-mohamed.html
The Danish newspaper, EkstraBladet, has obtained a copy of the secret case file, which Islamisk Trossamfund (Danish Islamic Community) has distributed on their "road show" in the Middle East: The imam and the unbelievers of Denmark (the article links to all 43 pages in the booklet).
It turns out that the 12 drawings in JyllandsPosten weren't sufficiently bad - at least not to justify a trip to the Middle East - so the imams have inserted a few extra images to make sure their trip wasn't a waste of money.
Some muslims on another forum said it isn't in the koran that you shouldn't draw mohamed but it is in his teachings. It may be islamic law that you shouldn't draw mohammed but they have done it for centuries. They have never had a problem with christians drawing mohammed before. http://www.itsallpolitics.com/portr...99e062dca82d749 http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/
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http://www.sorrynorwaydenmark.com/ I can't believe it muslims are admitting that muslims were wrong in what they did. They usually try to excuse it some way and blame it on the other guy.
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And markie, you're still making a fool of yourself. "Muslims do this, Muslims do that." If you hate Muslims, just admit it, but stop trying to judge a group of over a billion people based on a few hundred rioters. It is completely, amazingly stupid.
I think you'll find that in general, Muslims can, in fact, take a joke. If you look around, you'll find a Muslim comedian narrating the "World's angriest Iman" contest, and another talk about how thanks to veils and heavy robes, Muslims are the only people who can look at what's basically just a humanoid mass of cloth and go, "Wow, that's hot." Sometimes he gets erects just sitting there, staring at the curtains ... These cartoons go far beyond being a good natured joke, however.
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fair enough if they didnt mean to offend anybody at first , they could have just apologized and nothing more would have come of it , but noooooo they had to go and make more of these so called 'jokes' or cartoons, knowing full well that it would cause major problems and that the back lash would be quite severe...
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