Since you're stating as a fact that gleaning was acceptable on the Sabbath, prove it.
And then you can stop ignoring the ritual purity stuff, unless you're admitting that Jesus did, in fact, nullify those laws.
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Since this is the hot thread of the morn, I'll chime in.
Getting back on topic...
I'm sure I am expressing an angry outsider's POV, but I just can't help but feel that many Muslims (certainly Not the majority)) simply need to Grow Up, Deal Constructively with the Modern Pluralistic World, and Become Active in wiping out the disease of Fanaticism which is poisoning how the rest of the world sees their faith.
Otherwise that cartoon is just the beginning.
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It would be the same as picking an apple off the tree and eating it or berries off a bush, as long as you are not carrying them with you. If you you are gathering and carrying them along then that would be breaking the law......Jesus wasn't gathering them, he was plucking them and eating them.
The government didn't have any thing to do with it and the paper has appologized. The reacction fromm the muslim community was un called for IMO. They boycotted danish and other european countries goods and burned their embassies. When egypt ran the same cartoons in occtober 2005 there was no protests made. The hipocracy of it all is that the arab media regularly runs anti cchriistian and anti jewish stuff in their media. This is religious fanaticism and it makes islam look bad because they say islamm is peaceful and then riot over some cartoons. I don't know why they thought that was mohammed because no body knows what he looks like and that could have been any body.
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Just for example: "Or if he touches human uncleanness--anything that would make him unclean--even though he is unaware of it, when he learns of it he will be guilty." When Jesus cleanses the menstrating woman, he is "made unclean" because he touches her, and she is unclean. That's the reason one of the passers-by won't help the injured man in "the Good Sammeritan" story; he was unclean, and touching him to help would make the priest unclean. When Jesus associates with lepers, that's also "unclean," because they have an "infectious skin disease." Likewise, according to Leviticus, you can't eat certain kinds of animals, because they are unclean. Jesus brushed this asside; what you take into your body won't defile you. And when he touched the Synagigue leader's dead child to raiser her up? More ritual uncleanliness. He obviously wasn't concerned with the ritual purity laws.
(Not in the Bible, but part of the Jewish law, was the fact that if a tax collector entered your house, anything he touched would be ritually unclean; Jesus, of course, was known for eating with tax collectors).
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I don't think muslims are allowed to have a sense of humour. They say they don't make pictures of mohammed but they do. Christians and muslimms have been portraying mohammed since islam began and they have never had a problem with it. http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/ The danish imams took those pictures and some that they drew to the middle east and started the violence. I think the muslims should appologize to denmark and sweden and help themm re build their embassies. http://www.itsallpolitics.com/portr...99e062dca82d749
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I agree in fact the cartoons had very little to do with it. It was just an excuse to riot. The muslims don't want us to satyrize their religion but they can make fun of the jews and christians in their media. It's hipocritical. http://www.memri.org/ http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org.../arabprtoc.html
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If you're not a Christian, the obvious solution might be that he did not, in fact, say the "not a jot" stuff. Even if you are a Christian, actually, if you're not an inerintest(sp?). It sounds like something he might make up--he was always Jewifying Christ's stuff-and I don't think it's in any other gospel.
On an unrelated note, Markie, you might do well to stop talking about "Muslims" like they're a unified group instead of a religion with over a billion members and no single leader. Moderate Muslims have spoken out against this, even if it doesn't make good enough television to be widely reported.
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Exodus 12:14, 17, 24; Leviticus 23: 14, 21, 31; 1 Chronicles 16:15, Psalm 119:151-152, 160; Malachi 4:4, Matthew 5:18-19, and Luke 16:17 state that the laws of the Old Testament are binding forever.
Luke 16:16 states that the laws of the Old Testament are anulled by John the Baptist.
Romans 6:14, 7:4, 6; 10:4, Galatians 5:18, and Ephesians 2:15 state that the laws of the Old Testament are anulled by Jesus.
Yet they do draw him and have for centuries so I don't see what all the exitement is about beccause that could have a picture of been bin laden for all they know.
Islamic Depictions of Mohammed in Full
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This whole re action just shows the immaturity of their faith.
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They mainly do that to the jews.
Anti-Semitic Cartoons in the Arab Media - 2001
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Blood Libel in Saudi Daily
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Some of the pictures could have been of anybody. I would think the one with the bomb shaped turban was bin laden before I would think of mohammed. Some were humourous and some were just plain sick.
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