You come across in this debate as an ignorant lightweight pissing in the wind.
Lil is looking just fine. I'm not sure where that comment about American racism studies came from, but other than that she has solid grounds for what she claims, which is more than anything you have said has.
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i didnt ask you to prove yourself. i just asked for examples.
were you called names? did people treat you like you were some potential criminal? dirty looks? i didnt ask for specifics.
respect? dont play that card. you threw in a general statement and i asked you to be a bit more specific in it.
but you're offended. well im so sorry. should i be offended by your implication that my life has been of privilege because i'm white, and that everything i ever worked for was futile since it would have just been given to me most likely, and that my education is but a laughable joke before the world, or at least the great u.k.? or do i not have the right to be offended, being white and all?
I'm sure you just spoke for me there, but I'll skip over it.
I can't relate to being whatever race you are and marginalised. Fact. I will never attempt to claim I have experienced racism to the degree you have. What I'm saying is, being A minority doesn't mean you know what it's like for EVERY minority, outside of the one commonality that is marginalisation.
There we go. You relate to being discriminated, and that's fine. I never said you can't. I said that you can't assume you know more what it's like to be a black man receiving racism than I do, you're not one. I'm not.
You acted as if you know more of what it's like to be a black American than PVS, or myself, purely because you come from a minority.
No, you don't. You can just relate, a little better, to marginalisation.
I did read, AC. And I got the tone of what you said entirely. Lil laid out a list of her experience as giving her more right to speak than you. Part of your riposte was you say8ng you had been called racist names. That's irrelevant shit.
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"I've experienced racial slurring, a great many times. I can relate to what it's like to be called racist names. Just like you can relate to a black person being called racist names.
Can I relate to what it's being a female of your ethnicity, being marginalised? No. No more than you can relate to a black person suffering it."
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That whole part of your post? Waste of time. You being called the odd racist name means bugger all. But Lil being part of a marginalised group DOES give her insight into this area.
You are the one making a hash, AC- of every single post you make. Worst thing is, you THINK you are smart or insightful. But you are not. All your posts betray you as being nothing more than you are- a loud mouthed child, thinking he can compare with those who actually have weight behind what they say.
She can relate better than you can. End of story.
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Honestly even if a person shares the same race they can only get an idea of what it's like to be each other if the experience the same plight, the only way would be if there 100% similar that includes personality. In other words they can never be the same.
And the amount of people who have fed me that trash after I've made their debates look like paper, is almost as common.
I respect PVS in a way, I respect KharmaDog, I respect Capt_Fantastic, I respect Bardock, I respect many people on here who I've had mass disagreements with.
The first two don't even like me that much, or at least they didn't. So why you're trying to palm it off on that tired excuse is beyond me. You just refuse to accept that someone you don't like has caught you out.
If Ush was saying to you what I am, you'd say jack in return.
Tone? In text? You got no tone, you read it in a tone and ran with it, is what you did.
No it wasn't. Part of my reply was me saying that I could relate to someone being called racist names, because I have been. Did I say I could relate to what it feels like? No I didn't. She can't know what it's like to be a completely different marginalised minority, just because she is one.
It gives her insight and right to be empathetic as to what it's like to be marginalised, personally, within her race.
Not what it's like to be a black American sufferer of it. Or any other race, anymore than me or you.
Oh, well while we're on the subject of how our posts portray us:
People can b*tch about my attitude all they want, but on the forums you have all the charisma of a piece of dry wall, trying to hang on to the hayday when people here were afraid of your ability to post essays worth of grey, pretty drivel and scare people into not replying. Unlike now, when there are multiple people here who have decided not to let you do that anymore, and you get pushed out of threads way more currently, by people way more smarter than you.
All your posts portray you as nothing more than the stereotypical school headmaster who has nothing better to do than crack a whip and keep idiots inline and make himself feel "intelligent" about it.
Morrissey said it best. "Sir leads the troops, jealous of youth, same old suit since 1962".
To being marginalised, not to being a black American.
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