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Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
While I agree that there acts and what they stand for is wrong, Shouldn't we try to treat them like we treat all mentality ill people??? Someone has already posted that pedophilia is a mental illness....


I agree.


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Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Why is it called homophobia? Phobia means "Fear", and there's a big difference between being afraid of someone and despising them.


fear does not simply mean fear of harm from.
the disgust is many times rooted in a person's inability
to acknowledge. its an inward fear. a fear of what will
happen to YOU if you look.

by your logic, racism is not based in fear either,
since most racists claim not to fear those they despise.

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I agree with PVS, But I will add the question,

Why do people "despise" gays??? What is it that makes you hate them that much? Even If your religion says they are evil, then just ignore them knowing that your "going" to whatever afterlife you want while there not... It matters little in the end...
let them live there life how they want, its not like its affecting your life, unless you let it...


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Originally posted by PVS
by your logic, racism is not based in fear either



I don't believe it is--I think its based in misunderstanding. The word "fear" is overused and misused. Hate does not equal fear. I despise Kia and Hyundai, does that mean I fear them? No, c'mon now.

'naw mean?


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Originally posted by DiamondBullets
I don't believe it is--I think its based in misunderstanding. The word "fear" is overused and misused. Hate does not equal fear. I despise Kia and Hyundai, does that mean I fear them? No, c'mon now.

'naw mean?


Let's all hop along the "literal bus" and go for a ride! Your definition or categorization of fear is too static. Do you fear cutting your hand with a knife the same way as you do being mauled by a grizzly bear? Do you experience the same way to fear whether it comes from the suspicion that you may fail an exam, lose your job, or get into a car accident? Do you react the same way to each of these different fears?

I believe what PVS is saying (and please correct me if I am wrong) is that people are threatened by the unfamiliar or unknown. This feeling of being threatened (which is fear) often manifests itself as an aggressively defensive expression of racism.

And yes, people often hate what they fear or misunderstand.


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Originally posted by KharmaDog
ve what PVS is saying (and please correct me if I am wrong) is that people are threatened by the unfamiliar or unknown. This feeling of being threatened (which is fear) often manifests itself as an aggressively defensive expression of racism.


yup...pretty much.

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Originally posted by PVS
yup...pretty much.


glad you approve big grin


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It can be equally an example of intolerance and hate motivated, rather than fear motivated, although often the two go together. It can also be due to the need for every group to have someone to put down and blame their troubles on to make themselves feel better about being who they are. Eg. the Americans blaming Canadians etc. I blame the parents myself wink


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Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Why is it called homophobia? Phobia means "Fear", and there's a big difference between being afraid of someone and despising them.



So, this thread has made no difference in the way you view pedophilia? It hasn't been shown, logically, that homosexuality and pedophilia are two different things? That being said, your platform for just stating your opinion on homosexuality takes this thread off topic.

And, how much time do you spend contemplating homosexuality that you have come out on the other side "despising" it? How often do you interact with scary gay people that have found you so irresistable that they have crossed the social boundry of good taste to tell you they find you so attractive that they're willing to drop their pants right there, in public, and let you take them?

What profound threat do homosexuals pose to you, personally, and your life that you have to think about them at all? Because, if you're so damn hot that there are gay men falling out of the rafters over you, you need to post a pic, quickly!

I could understand having such strong feelings for them if they were following you around, waiting outside school for you at three or tossing pebbles at your second floor window at 2 in the morning, trying to get your attention, when all you want to do is go to sleep.

But, I guess you're young. I guess you're one of those people who walks through the mall, by himself, and hates to see other people not being miserable in their lives too.


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well, capt....just so you know i prefer to shop at the mall alone stick out tongue
nobody with me to drag me through every frikin store. i get what i need-->i leave.

so alone at the mall does not always equal misery stick out tongue

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well, capt....just so you know i prefer to shop at the mall alone stick out tongue
nobody with me to drag me through every frikin store. i get what i need-->i leave.

so alone at the mall does not always equal misery stick out tongue


A man after my own heart, I hate shoppping, it is one of the most boring things on Earth.


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well, capt....just so you know i prefer to shop at the mall alone stick out tongue
nobody with me to drag me through every frikin store. i get what i need-->i leave.

so alone at the mall does not always equal misery stick out tongue


I also shop alone. It's faster and less complicated. I'm a very deliberate shopper. However, if you choose to go to the mall and shop alone, you aren't who I'm talking about. You know, these kids who go to the mall just to sulk around, hating other people who aren't miserable too.

Stop arguing with me all the time. You point out little shit, do you do it just to do it?


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Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Stop arguing with me all the time. You point out little shit, do you do it just to do it?


shifty whistle

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Originally posted by PVS
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Yeah, that's what I thought.


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just doing my best to combat all the prejudice towards solo mall shoppers stick out tongue

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Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So, this thread has made no difference in the way you view pedophilia? It hasn't been shown, logically, that homosexuality and pedophilia are two different things? That being said, your platform for just stating your opinion on homosexuality takes this thread off topic.

And, how much time do you spend contemplating homosexuality that you have come out on the other side "despising" it? How often do you interact with scary gay people that have found you so irresistable that they have crossed the social boundry of good taste to tell you they find you so attractive that they're willing to drop their pants right there, in public, and let you take them?

What profound threat do homosexuals pose to you, personally, and your life that you have to think about them at all? Because, if you're so damn hot that there are gay men falling out of the rafters over you, you need to post a pic, quickly!

I could understand having such strong feelings for them if they were following you around, waiting outside school for you at three or tossing pebbles at your second floor window at 2 in the morning, trying to get your attention, when all you want to do is go to sleep.

But, I guess you're young. I guess you're one of those people who walks through the mall, by himself, and hates to see other people not being miserable in their lives too.


^ blink That's alotta typing and BSing. I just wanted to know why the word "phobia" was in it. PVS pretty-much nailed it on the head.


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Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I hate shoppping, it is one of the most boring things on Earth.



yes I try to avoid it if at all possible.


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actually it was kdog

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in all that you fail to explain the relevance of connecting homosexuality to paedophilia. its irrelevant. irrelevant. f***ing irrelevant.

so if a man rapes a little boy, a little girl, and a dead dog,
thats peadophelia AND hetero-homo-necro-beastiality.

WHATS YOU'RE POINT?


In all that you fail to find reason to put down the fact that Homosexuality and Pedophilia are sometimes linked.


Like when a MALE attempts to have sexual relations with another MALE.

And, YES! You're right!


You can repeat "Irrelevant" until you turn purple, but you're denying a DIRECT FACT.

The fact that Homosexuality and Pedophilia are relevant exists.

Homosexuality isn't often mentioned when people identify a Pedophile, but it is Homosexuality. How is it not?


So Male + Male = Not Homosexuality? Okay then.


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In all that you fail to find reason to put down the fact that Homosexuality and Pedophilia are sometimes linked.


Like when a MALE attempts to have sexual relations with another MALE.

And, YES! You're right!


You can repeat "Irrelevant" until you turn purple, but you're denying a DIRECT FACT.

The fact that Homosexuality and Pedophilia are relevant exists.

Homosexuality isn't often mentioned when people identify a Pedophile, but it is Homosexuality. How is it not?


So Male + Male = Not Homosexuality? Okay then.


if you have no desire to address my point then you're just stroking me off. later

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