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silver_tears
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Which makes him the ultimate super hero. Just because you have your insecurities with Kryptonite, doesn't make Superman a bad Super hero.


Are you serious?
You mean you get joy out of watching (or reading, whatever the case may be) something you know the outcome of before hand?
If you know he can't die what the hell could you possibly get out of the whole experience.

The whole point of a superhero is they have superhuman powers. If they lose their shred of humanity what's the point?

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completely.

superman has said that batman is the most dangerous man on earth.no expression
Yeah, to people he's gathered a full dossier on. Anyone that doesn't have a weakness that he knows of makes him screwed


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Originally posted by silver_tears
Are you serious?
You mean you get joy out of watching (or reading, whatever the case may be) something you know the outcome of before hand?
If you know he can't die what the hell could you possibly get out of the whole experience.

The whole point of a superhero is they have superhuman powers. If they lose their shred of humanity what's the point?
Yes. I always read the last page of a new book first.


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Are you serious?
You mean you get joy out of watching (or reading, whatever the case may be) something you know the outcome of before hand?
If you know he can't die what the hell could you possibly get out of the whole experience.

The whole point of a superhero is they have superhuman powers. If they lose their shred of humanity what's the point?
How many superman comics have you read?


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What about Wolverine? He heals and he kicks ass. His weakness is magnets. I don't know many people with a weakness to magnets. I find magnets to be fun.


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How many superman comics have you read?


None. I hate him.
You're right though, I'm not being fair, being unfamiliar with the comic version of superman. The movie version/tv show piss me right off.

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None. I hate him.
You're right though, I'm not being fair, being unfamiliar with the comic version of superman. The movie version/tv show piss me right off.
Ditto. Smallville? WTF is that?


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completely.

superman has said that batman is the most dangerous man on earth.no expression


I HATE BATMAN LOVE INTERESTS
When you have nothing to lose you're so much more dangerous.

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Yeah, to people he's gathered a full dossier on. Anyone that doesn't have a weakness that he knows of makes him screwed


"If Clark wanted to, he could use his super-speed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than the Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, Clark's essentially a good person...and deep down, I'm not "
batman:hush


batman will go through whatever he can to get what he wants;save for killing people.

even superman bows to the greatness that is batmanwink

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Originally posted by Reverend Axel
Ditto. Smallville? WTF is that?


FILLS ME WITH RAGE

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FILLS ME WITH RAGE
I'VE NEVER SEEN IT.


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What about Wolverine? He heals and he kicks ass. His weakness is magnets. I don't know many people with a weakness to magnets. I find magnets to be fun.
Wolverine is Immortal. He can't die because he killed Lazurus. Wolverine sucks now....
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None. I hate him.
You're right though, I'm not being fair, being unfamiliar with the comic version of superman. The movie version/tv show piss me right off.
Yeah because the point of the superman comic is to show you how human he truly is...

And by the way, your definition of a true superhero is a little off. A Superhero is a being of unprecedented physical prowess dedicated to acts of derring-do in the public interest. Which just so happens to also be the definition of superman...


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Yes.

there are many a things fundamentally wrong with the film. most important is the relationship between batman and the joker. i love how he took quite the complex relations between the two to the most overdone film hero-villan cliche. batman doesn't kill. in this batman is an automated man killing machine.nor is he any kind of celebrity.bruce wayne is portrayed as a mumbling social outcast and many more.

my main point i just this; if the fundamentals are wrong than i can't exactly root for the rest of the film.erm

the music was good tho. i love the batman theme there.


OMFG! You're not looking past the start of The Dark Knight at all. The Joker right at the beginning was nothing but a villain with one liners and clown make-up, and it barely got more serious than that until Frank Miller started to change things. Also there was NOTHING complex about it until that stage, it only happened since the mid to late 80's. The Joker was presented AS THE JOKER in the film. Actually to be honest the Joker was given more personality in that film. Also, I don't see I don't see how between Batman and Batman begins there's much difference between the "social outcast". He's presented a man who doesn't want to be involved in the high life in both except in one he's more a wanker in Batman Begins. You're taking the portrayals of these characters to heart but there's something you I can't believe you haven't picked up on, Batman changes ALL THE TIME. The presentation of batman and Bruce Wayne, depending on the character will change accordingly. It's the world of comic books which allow the whole alternative universes and different personalities of these characters to shine. However, by all means take the things you kinda read from maybe a handful of comics and the films to heart.

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Originally posted by Punkyhermy
"If Clark wanted to, he could use his super-speed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than the Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, Clark's essentially a good person...and deep down, I'm not "
batman:hush


batman will go through whatever he can to get what he wants;save for killing people.

even superman bows to the greatness that is batmanwink
And then Thanos would come in and show him what HE is, deep down...


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Wolverine is Immortal. He can't die because he killed Lazurus. Wolverine sucks now.... Yeah because the point of the superman comic is to show you how human he truly is...

And by the way, your definition of a true superhero is a little off. A Superhero is a being of unprecedented physical prowess dedicated to acts of derring-do in the public interest. Which just so happens to also be the definition of superman...


Way to wikipedia stick out tongue
It depends what definition you use, but the word itself, both super and hero are human terms. You don't normally refer to animals or inanimate objects as heroes right?
Ergo a superhero is simply a hero (so human) who is super.

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i am tired

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i am tired


saammee.

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saammee.


ahhh!

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ahhh!




*pulls close and kisses sleepily*

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