Supes at his best beats Goku at his best. A SSJ4 Goku is powerful, but PC Supes sneezed a solar system out of existence. Goku needs to power up for huge destructive blasts. PC Supes just has to sneeze. (If Goku gets to be in his ultimate form, then Supes should too.)
A Goku with with the dragon balls is even stronger, but Supes with his sword (which is an actual annual, #10) is one with the universe.
So depending on which version of Supes is referred to, Juggernaut loses before he thinks.
Unless he's strong enough to do that. . oh yeah, your ba, gues you forgot huh?
as was stated before, preforming things that are within their abilities (IE they've done something exactly like it before or have doene somethign greater than the feat in question) then new uses like that aren't as quesitionalble to something that is much more different.
Galactus has never weaten the earth before, so I guess he must not be able to huh? Despite eating other planets?
Still though all of Superman's foes get at least one word in and if that be Sorry covered this, you're using comic book mechanics again. which is different from the feats themselves. Nice and desperate of you.
Yeah, too bad that'd only happen after the fight is over, huh?
It's more foolish than "Oh he just can"?
Sorry, but having the magical ability to walk on air is not the same thing as being able to magically walk on nothing. More desperation. nice.
So it's also in question if he can even walk in air? Nice.
I never said it was. But your speculation on the other hand. . .
Sans-forcefield, Superman is using his speed to take out Juggernaut. But if Superman hesitates or Juggernaut has already decided to move forward, Juggernaut moves forward. Lifting the ground won't do Superman any good - once Juggernaut has decided where to go the ground that gets in his way would just bust apart around his body like the useless energy beams that everyone always likes to throw at the advancing Juggernaut. Do you honestly think that a piece of rock being lifted around his feet is more force than all the energy blasts people regularly try to stop him with? You're thinking of Juggernaut as an inertial object, not as an unstoppable object. He is moving the same direction no matter what happens in front, behind, beside, under or above him.
Also, isn't it possible that War Hulk didn't literally break Juggernaut's unstopability but rather slowed him to the point where he was only making atomic-level progress forward?
__________________ Superman should get the gem of Cyttorak and a Green Lantern ring.
It looks like it sorta but the text indicates his stop and there is no more motion on the foot pic. Plus, hulks arm is free which it wouldn't have been if juggernaut was still occupying it with his push.
No no. War Hulk was upgraded with Celestial Tech. Tech that was mystically-empowered to override Juggy's mystical enchantment. That's how War Hulk was able to toss Juggy aside.
Anyway. If ring-outs are not allowed, then this fight goes on until one dies of old age. And since Cain doesn't really age anymore at all, Supes will go down first. In fact, it really won't take that long. Juggy wins this purely because of his inability to be hurt by anything that Supes can dish out. Superman, meanwhile, can and will be damaged by repeated thrashings from Juggy (I say this because EVENTUALLY Superman will be weaker than he was at the start, allowing Juggernaut to finally land some blows).
Point does Superman's foes normally get at least one word in yes does Juggernaut's shield only need a thought to come up YESSSSSSSSSSS
What can Superman do once the shield is up nothing
Oh by the way about the whole walking thing now I feel you have no right now to even talk about it. Let's see who is the one who told you about what really happened me which tells me you have never seen said feat and therefore can not possibly comment on something you know nothing about sorry.
So let's see if we are going by one time feats like almost all of Superman's are then Juggs could shrink then shoot more magic explosive balls then Supes has ever seen and then slow him down to a crawl with almost thought yeah sounds Juggs is really one demensional here.
Without bfr, I can't really see Superman actually hurting Juggernaut. His invincibility is a literal one. There is quite literally nothing out there that can do any damage to him when he is moving forward. That, and the fact that he is a magical being doesn't really work in Superman's favor at all. I always discount the Marvel/DC crossovers for one reason: Every time Superman wins a fight in those is purely to make him look better.
Here is Juggs reaction to the Mjolnir being thrown at him:
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I know Newjak posted a link to the same picture above, but for the inept fanboy challenged, I posted the pic so they could see the difference in durability.
See that, how Juggs is laughing and snickering at Thor.
Now take a look at the picture below for Supes durability:
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Same scenario only it's Supes taking a Mjolnir shot. But it doesn't look like he's laughing... There's even blood coming out of Supes mouth.
HWFFFTTT!!!
Durability is the key which will make Juggs victorious. Supes only chance is BFR.
Are you serious? Your using Mjolnir as a means to compare the two's durability? Mjolnir is magically based and Superman has a vulnerability to magic. You can't really compare them using Mjolnir.
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Apr 1st, 2006 07:36 PM
Yeah real desperate of me.
That picture made me happy 
