Several DC and Marvel humans take harder hits than that with no problems on average.
And Cap just recently took his entire chest piece being exploded by Gambit. Also he survived his ship burning up in re-entry and smacking into a 4 story building.
Wow, just checked that scan, looks like pretty solid evidence that Captain America actually is explosion proof
I guess Cap wins then, LOL, if he can take an explosion that size he must be pretty much bullet proof & Hi-Ex proof, doesn't leave a lot for Dredd to be able to do.
I guess Dredd could distract Cap whilst ordering the Bike to cycle around and unload its own Hi-Ex's in Cap's back, then Dredd could unload all his Hi-Ex's in Cap whilst he's down. Don't see many other ways of winning unfortunately.
Not sure if Armour Piercing could affect Cap, its said to be able to go through 2cm's of Steel + a perp and carry on going, but I think it tends to be less effective than Hi-Ex.
Steve is very durable and has a incredible damage soak probably one of the best of his peers. But individual target strikes from A-list martial artist have proven time and time again, that they can indeed hurt him.
These guys also have proven that they can hit outside of there weight class.
These guys are the cream of the crop. Plus explosion don't target specific vulnerable areas like nerves, joints, throat, pressure points etc etc.
I guess the Dredd/Batman fight is a very different ballgame really. I always thought it would probably be Dredd's superhuman reactions, and brute strength which allowed him to fight Batman to a standstill, brute strength is not going to help him against Captain America, and Dredd probably doesn't have Batman's knowledge of pressure points and weak spots to fall back on (he's obviously very skilled at hand to hand, but I've never seen him use those kinds of techniques).
So whilst Batman is around par with Dredd, he's probably much better suited to fighting against Captain America than Dredd is.
Though looking through some more scans it seems that Captain America is also faster than a speeding bullet, so I don't really see how Batman would even be able to connect a pressure strike in the first place
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Unfortunately its difficult to find similar kinds of comparisons for Dredd simply because he doesn't live in a world full of famous superheroes to come up against, or partake in enemy crossovers where you can say stuff like "Dredd held his own against so-and-so once, and so-and-so nearly killed Superman" etc
There's also a line in Book of the Dead which said something about their bloodline being descended from the "ancient Judda" causing Dredd to have "the purest genetic material", but in the face of Oz, and Origins its kinda' hard to make sense of that line tbh.
Also it was written by Grant Morrison & Mark Millar, so most fans probably pretend it doesn't exist.
I thought he would win too until I saw Captain America outrunning bullets and being hit point blank range with Hi-Ex level explosions and not taking damage.
The Captain America I remember from my childhood though could definitely be taken out by Dredd IMO.
Unless by "full equipment" you mean the Killdozer of course, I doubt Cap could damage a "Nuclear blast-proof" tank.
Dredd has faced worse than Cap, that logic is crappy logic.
This thread is like saying "hey, let's make Cap fight Batman, but let's put Bruce in Doctor Doom's armor to make it fair". Cap is hilariously outgunned here, against an opponent that could make him work for a win on straight combat.
Agreed
Going by the Gambit scan the Lawgiver would be ineffectual, Dredd would be shooting Hi-Ex's and even if they hit Captain America they wouldn't be doing any damage.
Even if Dredd fires so fast that there's a wall of bullets (which he probably can do), if Captain America can run faster than a bullet (which is showed in the other scan), then even in a worst case scenario he can just turn around and run away from the bullets!
I'm not up on recent Captain America, and am just largely taking others' words on the matter, so If there's a reason to discount those two scans (non-canon, artwork blunder, Gambit's explosions are weaker than real world equivalents etc,etc), then I'm back on the Dredd can win side, if not then I've got to give it to Cap.
Cap is not really imprevious to explosions, nor literaly faster than a bullet, specially not Dredd's futuristic weapons and tech with intelligent bullets and such.
I heavily doubt Remy intended to kill Steve with the explosion that appeared on panel, so I must assume he actually held back from his regular high end explosions. It would be against Gambit's intentions to kill Cap, so he probably just wanted to ko him but Cap proved to be too superhumanly sturdy compared to a regular human -or whichever amount of force Gambit decided to use as a comparision not to kill Cap-.
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