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Mark Question
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No headbutts, fish-hooking, biting, eye-gouging, knees to the head on the ground, point strikes with the elbow (bringing it down,) groin strikes, stomps, throat strikes... That's some of the no-go's. Can't think of any chokes that are illegal...


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well Pride allows knees to the head when on the ground. ufc doesn't allow it. ufc allows elbows to the head when on the ground, pride doens't allow it.


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AC, check out the PrideFC fights i've uploaded

http://www.dailymotion.com/Noubs


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Excellent video -hh-. I also give you extra props since I absolutely hate Arona. You know he tried to say he wasn't knocked out or something to that effect after that fight? God I hate Arona!

Make one with Shogun owning him too lol.

Jim Reaper and -hh- have covered most of fouls Alpha Centauri. I'll add that UFC doesn't allow any manner of piledriver, grabbing of the clavicle, or kicks to the kidney using the heel of the foot.

Of course, there is the typical stuff as well. No attacking the ref or attacking during breaks etc.

As for your actual question though, the only holds that are banned are small joint manipulations. You must always have at least 4 fingers in control before applying a submission I believe.

Pride FC has far less rules.

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I think that has a lot to do with the UFC being located in the States. U.S. has stricter fighting rules than Japan.


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Rickson Gracie is a name I recognise, only because Maynard James Keenan of Tool was trailed by him.

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Yeah. I loved it when Maynard did a rear naked choke on that fan while still singing. Did you see that?

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Yeah, he didn't miss a note either.

*Trained, not trailed.

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Maynard was trained by Rickson? that's awesome.


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Yeah, there's a conversation transcript on Rickson's site.

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i like both organizations, but Pride is better in every aspect. that is why i only order pride events and not ufc.



Well, UFC officially purchased PRIDE for $65 Million dollars. So, whatever dream matchups you've ever had in mind may come to fruition. (Fedor Emelianenko vs Andrei Arlovski.. )

..also some rule changes.



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Under new ownership, PRIDE will adapt to the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts which the UFC already adheres to, which will effectively remove kneeing on the ground and soccer kicks but will allow elbows. The weight classes will be aligned to the Unified Rules' standards as well. Judging would however remain the same, with PRIDE's own judging criteria in Japan and the 10-point must system in the United States.


PRIDE never had weight classes for regular bouts, IIRC, which kind of set them apart, but it may be more fair when they have their UFC/PRIDE superbouts.

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Maynard was trained by Rickson? that's awesome.

Yeah. I believe he is a purple belt.

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Well, UFC officially purchased PRIDE for $65 Million dollars. So, whatever dream matchups you've ever had in mind may come to fruition. (Fedor Emelianenko vs Andrei Arlovski.. )

..also some rule changes.

PRIDE never had weight classes for regular bouts, IIRC, which kind of set them apart, but it may be more fair when they have their UFC/PRIDE superbouts.

That fight wouldn't be entertaining at all. Fedor would trash Arlovski without any difficulty.

As for the purchase, Pride and UFC will still be treated as separate entities and Pride will be owned by a different company than Zuffa. However, their will be intercompany fights being that the Fertitta brothers still own anything related to UFC, Pride, etc at this point. The article I had is done, but I'll see if I can find another one.

Also, K-1 formed an "Anti- UFC/PRIDE alliance" with some organizations. As most of you know, Pride was K-1's biggest competitor overseas and now with the financially addition of the Fertitta brothers, Pride has even more ability to compete. K-1 is supposed to throw some huge event soon in USA. Here is the article.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm...79&zoneid=2

Also, the Nogueira brothers supposedly hate that Pride has been bought and have withdrew from any organization. Fedor only has one fight under Pride left and rumors are starting that he is leaving to Bodog because he hates UFC.

Also, hopefully UFC changes their ruleset OR has their intercompany fights in Japan. UFC's ruleset is far too limiting.

Something momentous is happening in MMA. I predict soon, MMA will have an event similar to the world cup in soccer.

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well Big Nog is 80% blind in one eye. if the rules in USA apply to Japan, Big Nog will no longer be able to compete.


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Excellent video -hh-. I also give you extra props since I absolutely hate Arona. You know he tried to say he wasn't knocked out or something to that effect after that fight? God I hate Arona!


I was a happy dude when Rua beat him down.


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i was pissed when Arona was gouging at Sakurabas face wounds during their fight. cheap move and nasty.


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I was a happy dude when Rua beat him down.

Yeah. It completely made up for Arona vs Silva. Rua killing Arona was one of the happiest days of my life.

.....wait is that sad?
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i was pissed when Arona was gouging at Sakurabas face wounds during their fight. cheap move and nasty.

It's one thing to manipulate the ruleset, but Arona was just being a straight up little ***** in that fight. I hate him so much.

Also have you guys seen the currect line up for Pride 34? I have to say I am a little disappointed honestly. It won't be as good as 33.

Sokoudjou vs Arona (hopefully he gets owned)
Shinya Aoki vs Brian Lo-A-Njoe
Makoto Takimoto vs Zelg Galesic
Zuluzhino vs Butterbean
Gilbert Yvel vs Bazigit Atajev
Kazuyuki Fujita vs Jeff Monson

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i completley disagree. im loving the fightcard.

i hope Arona wins, i dont want Lil Nog to be seen as an amateur when he lost to Sok. that was luck for Sok.

it's great to see Zelg in Pride, and watching Fujita crush Monson will be entertaining.


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i've added bunch of new fights. check them out.

http://www.dailymotion.com/Noubs


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i hope Arona wins, i dont want Lil Nog to be seen as an amateur when he lost to Sok. that was luck for Sok.

it's great to see Zelg in Pride, and watching Fujita crush Monson will be entertaining.

Meh. Everyone is allowed to screw up here and there. i.e. Crocop vs Roidleman 1. I don't think Lil' Nog will be hurt too much by that. Especially if they give a rematch.

Fujita will be fun, but I'm just not feeling the rest of the fights right now. It might turn out to be better when I see it, but I have a feeling I'll wish that my mind was wiped and I got to see Pride 33 all over again.

I'll check the videos out.

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Mayhem had a fight last night. im trying to find a link for the fight.


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