i agree. i just like the combination of saunders, gibbs, and williams. all of them have been or should have been head coaches and williams will be the coach in washington after gibbs leaves, it is in his contract that if he does not get it he gets out of his contract and gets huge payment. just my opinion.
that may be true. but the redskins and joe gibbs felt it necessary to make him the heir appearant. now this is the same team that PAID sprurrier all that money for mediocrity so to take it with a grain of salt i understand. Gibbs and saunders however have my respect so he i will give the benefit of the doubt. and look what williams did with that d last year.
I know Williams is a good defensive coach, but just being a good coordinator doesnt mean much to being an good head coach. It definitly helps, but I think Williams will always be a good d coach.
Give him a shot agan, but I think the same thing will happen. Heck, he was 17-31 as a coach.
i am not a fan of the skins do not get me wrong. unfornately i am a fan of a team that has never had two consecutive winning seasons. Falcons in case you were curious. williams will lose the job not long after he gets it and saunders will be made interim and then the skins will hire someone from the outside. i just think this is a very good staff.
Whoa, with the merging of the eagles super bowl thread, I was a little disoriented for a moment. And let's get back into the AFC for a bit with the following:
NEW YORK JETS
Put it this way: If Pennington isn't 90%, this team is 0%. I hardly recognize anyone on this team anymore. The backups are abysmal, and that's assuming Bollinger doesn't make the team. Martin may not play this year, leaving the RB situation almost as bad as it was last year. They also have Alonzo Jackson, who the Steelers b*tch-slapped out of town. That pretty much sums it up there. Hey, at least they have a good tackle for the next few years until he gets good and leaves for New England via free agency.
I never understood why they never gave Klingsbury more of a chance. I mean, the guy only passed for 700 yards in a game once. Maybe it's because David Klingler did that, also, and look how he ended up.
I checked out some recent New York Jets Training Camp news. They went to the movies on Friday and cancelled practice on Monday.
I saw them play last year at Bank of America Stadium and it was downright atrocious. Mangini's really got his work cut out for him to get this team back on track. Strengths? Vil-maaaaaa!!!! Weaknesses? They play in the New York metro area. Everything else trickles down from there.
Strengths: The two first rounders will anchor that line for years, and Ferguson is going to be a beast. Texans should of pick him up instead of Williams. Decent defensive line and decent LB core. Atleast, they have Ted Nugents kid kicking the field goals ( Cat Scratch Feveeeerrr) and decent WR core
Weakness: QB is dead, Martin is getting old, Patrick Ramsey is the backup...and everything is average..nothing special.
Prediction: 5-11, I think they have a chance of stealing a couple of games away from people.
pennington looked really good in the scrimmage although his arm is still as strong as a todlers. Aikman was always able to be good using the short passing game though so maybe it can work for the jets too.
Forgot to mention there 33 year old running back with bad knees coming off his worst year of his career 3.3 yards a carry for 735 and had 24 catches for 118 thats a blistering 4.9 yards a catch.. The jets are a mess the only bright spot is johnathan vilma whos turning into a impact player on D. If Pennington and a big IF can stay healthy and Laveranues Coles gets his head out of his ass and Justin McCareins shows the talent he poseses yeah they got a good shot at wining 5-7 games.
Aikman was a product of the system nothing more he had one of the greatest offensive lines ever runningbacks,widereciever. not to mention the moose and jay novacek. career numbers:
Nothing specatacular he was a short pass quaterback Irvin got all his yards after the catch. I was just never a Troy aikman fan I respect his 3 rings but thats about it..
And that's why I said 5 wins. Also, Martin might be done, but he could also come back like he did 2 years ago.
They also have a pretty decent D....not great but the guys they have are pretty good.
So Aikman's 90 wins in a decade (most for an QB in any decade), 3 rings, pretty good numbers (not Marino type), but still good. I'm not saying he is the best QB, but heck, people praise Tom Brady and Ben Rothlisberger for winning, but when it comes down to retired players, that doesnt mean shit.
Read my post Product of the system the guy had nothing but studs around him his running back happened to be the alltime leading rusher had a hall of fame wide out Michael irvin and that ungodly O line moose jay novacek and got get me started on that D they had look at his numbers before emmitt and michael came to town. I never said he was a bum just said 91 to 96 he was great he had a star studded team to work with now look at 97 to 2000 and 89 to 90 those years tallied 56 touchdowns to 66 INT with a 57.3 passing percentage 6.4 yards a pass and never threw for 3,000 yards during those years. so half of his career he was shit but in that short 6yr span he was good.
i am not your stats on aikman's winning the most games in a decade is correct. from 1990-1999 the boys were a combined 101-59. this was aikman's best decade. however from 1981-1990 Joe Montana and the 49ers were 113-39-1. this includes a strike shortened season in 82 and many teams having runs that were better than any the cowboys had to put up with. aikman was never that good. take away that defense and he is just another qb with a good offense and a few wins. name one year during the 80s when the 49ers were the best defense in the nfl. how many superbowls did aikman win without smith and irving. how many did montana win without rice and craig? the answer to that is one. this shows that while i will admit that montana benefitted greatly from walsh's offense he was a great qb. look at what he did in two years at kc without walsh:
11 | 181 298 60.7 2144 7.2 13 7
14 | 299 493 60.6 3283 6.7 16 9
not bad years for a qb on the decline. both times they went to the playoffs. Aikman does not hol the record for most wins by a qb in a decade. not a chance. there are many other qbs with more wins in a decade than aikman all anyone has to do is look. Aikman is lucky that the vikings were morons and traded to the cowboys a dynasty.
I never said he was the best. I said he was very good QB.
First, any QB that comes out in his rookie year isnt going to have great numbers, especially playing for a team that won 1 game. Look at Peyton Manning, he's numbers suck, but now he's considered the best.
Second, the reason behind your arguement is that he had two other players to make him better during that 6 year span of being good.
Then you said, 1997 to 2000 he sucked, well, hate to bring tell you, but oh wait, Irvin played till 1999, and oh wait, Emmitt Smith was still playing also. It was the defence, bad coaching and ego's that destroyed the Cowboys.
The guy had 3 bad years, first two years with an absoulate shit team, and then the last year of his career with an absoulate shit team, but wait, during those "bad" years you mentioned from 1997 to 1999, he was actually pretty good, with absolute shit teams. I think your forgot to mention how many games he played in those last years because the stats look alot worst in an regular 16 week season.
Lastly, I dont care how bad your stats are (which in the case, the stats were pretty damn good), winning 90 games in a decade, and three Superbowls as the leader of the team is a pretty damn big accomplishment. What would happen if you replaced Aikman with a guy like Aaron Brooks, or a guy like Jeff Garcia, or a guy like Mark Brunell? Would those guys win championships with the Dallas Cowboys?
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