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§P0oONY
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The sounds come from him slapping himself...


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Yeah, I found that somewhat embarrassing really. It seemed like he trained years and years to make it seem like he's punching really hard rather than training to actually do it no expression

That he's basically clapping is just incredibly goofy. Even though I'm sure he's quite skilled.


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Has anyone ever noticed that alot of "martial arts masters" are out of shape and overweight? Dude looks like a redneck.

That's because most of their "training" consists of demos against compliant opponents.
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I'm sure he's quite skilled.

I sincerely doubt that.

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I sincerely doubt that.


He'll have some skills, I'm sure. Whether they are particularly useful in a fight...I don't know.


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The sounds come from him slapping himself...
yeah its true. what he is doing though, is keeping his hands moving in preparation for the next attack...at least thats what i got out of the video. he said something like "its all feeding off each other"

but yeah, i don't know how well he would do in a fight against a master who is actually in shape, but i just like that video to show the simple power of simple moves. like when he hit that guy in the gut, it didn't seem that hard, but apparently there was some sort of force behind it.


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No... what he is doing is making out he is hitting a person really hard, when he is actually slapping himself..

As Ray William Johnson would say: Fake and gay.


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im sorry, but do you study american kenpo? that is what they teach. He is not showing off in this video, it was recorded demonstrations to show how to do things, so he would mislead them.


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There are pleny of martial arts that are a load of hogwash... From that video I'm guessing this one is too.


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I've noticed the same thing, there is also that dim mak master that has been kinda famous lately, i think he was worse.

but man, besides the pain he causes to those guys, it sounds like he is cracking a whip really hard.


The snap sound is prob fake.

Look, Bruce makes the same sound, this Paul guy must be his equal.


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That's because most of their "training" consists of demos against compliant opponents.


Because he comes from a McDojo....which are sadly common in the US.


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What do you guys think of Krav Maga?


Some dude in a Krav Maga t-shirt tried to fight me in the Walmart parking lot a couple of mths ago... 1st he tried to ram my truck with a shopping cart. Then he stuck his chin out and told me to hit him. I told him he was the one acting crazy, and if he wants to fight, he'd have to swing on me. He told me that i was not worth it, and literally ran off... Strange.


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He'll have some skills, I'm sure. Whether they are particularly useful in a fight...I don't know.

Gotcha.
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Because he comes from a McDojo....which are sadly common in the US.

All too true. They are pretty standard worldwide now.
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Some dude in a Krav Maga t-shirt tried to fight me in the Walmart parking lot a couple of mths ago... 1st he tried to ram my truck with a shopping cart. Then he stuck his chin out and told me to hit him. I told him he was the one acting crazy, and if he wants to fight, he'd have to swing on me. He told me that i was not worth it, and literally ran off... Strange.

What was he so pissed about? lol

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What was he so pissed about? lol



I have no idea... After he shopping cart, battering-ram, feinted my truck and flipped me off, i got out and asked him what his problem was... That's when he ran at me(,so i put my hands up) and he stopped about 8' away. He stuck his chin out with his hands behind his back asking me to hit him. Actually, I thought maybe he was trying to hustle me because Walmart has cameras everywhere, or maybe he's just f'd in the head. confused


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In the last three months, five new dojos/martial arts schools have opened within 15 miles of the one I currently attend. They are named as follows:

Master Han's Taekwondo

Matt Stevens' Karate Dojo

The Lion Cage MMA Club

Phoenix Valley Krav Maga Center

En Guarde-&-Attaque Fencing Academy


^In the next couple weeks I'll visit these places to get a feel of them. I wanna see if they're legit, or McDojo money-making rackets.


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Are there many fencing mcdojos?


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It's hard to even tell with most weapon based arts, if we're talking about "effectiveness." The age of swords/spears/nunchaku/etc has long since passed. I've seen some "real" weapons based sparring/bouts, but I don't know where we could get realiable data for it in real life situations. I'm obviously no weapons expert though.

I actually took an introductory fencing class a while back. It was fun, but I have absolutely no idea if those skills transfer over to like....a real sword fight.

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Are there many fencing mcdojos?


Yes, actually. Today, Western fencing is mostly just a sport and not very practical, since people no longer walk around with a sword hanging from their belt. A legitimate fencing school is one that seriously preps and hones its' students to be a competitve fencer, and possibly help them to join the Olympics. A fencing McDojo is one where they just have you pay a monthly fee to dress up in fencing gear, meet people, and clang foils around. With those, there's really no realistic future for a fencing career.

But there's still plenty of practical armed martial arts. For the last 2 years or so, I've been taking Karambit Machan, which is an Indonesian knife-fighting style. Since concealable knives will never go obsolete, it's obviously reliable. Also, many forms of stick-fighting are good to know and practical; like Eskrima, Modern Arnis and Lathi. This is because the moves they teach you transfer perfectly to any blunt, makeshift weapon, not just a "stick". In a real situation, you can grab a lead pipe off a garage floor and still use Eskrima with it.


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Yes, actually. Today, Western fencing is mostly just a sport and not very practical, since people no longer walk around with a sword hanging from their belt. A legitimate fencing school is one that seriously preps and hones its' students to be a competitve fencer, and possibly help them to join the Olympics. A fencing McDojo is one where they just have you pay a monthly fee to dress up in fencing gear, meet people, and clang foils around. With those, there's really no realistic future for a fencing career.

But there's still plenty of practical armed martial arts. For the last 2 years or so, I've been taking Karambit Machan, which is an Indonesian knife-fighting style. Since concealable knives will never go obsolete, it's obviously reliable. Also, many forms of stick-fighting are good to know and practical; like Eskrima, Modern Arnis and Lathi. This is because the moves they teach you transfer perfectly to any blunt, makeshift weapon, not just a "stick". In a real situation, you can grab a lead pipe off a garage floor and still use Eskrima with it.


That's actually what I was thinking, fencing being a competitive sport by itself, I don't think that they'd teach you something completely useless, there may be better or worse trainers, but there's an exact point system and you can measure your skill. If you teach a kid "karate" and let him demonstrate some moves for a belt...that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be effective in a fight. In fencing there's a clear thing you want to achieve obviously. I could also imagine that with some fencing the experience and community is more what you are interested in. I suppose I don't see it as a real fighting style, so I would hesitate to call it a "McDojo"...perhaps it's different in the US. In germany though if you wanted to learn fencing it would probably be in a club, not a school.


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If you teach a kid "karate" and let him demonstrate some moves for a belt...that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be effective in a fight.


thumb up You said it.

In the US (and in Mexico for that matter), way too many dojos frivolously hand out belts. Belt-testing is [supposed to be] called testing for a reason, but sometimes its just used as a formality and the student gets the new rank no matter what. I've noticed that Karate and Taekwondo schools are the worst when it comes to this. I've been to martial art seminars where I saw teenage black belts. And they weren't even tough-looking; they looked like either a scrawny Trekkie, or a fat nerd, and probably only got into martial arts due to insecurity or because they were getting picked on. Some gang-banger kid with no formal training could have f*cked them up.

But this is because those dojos are only in it for the money. Some people just naturally suck at fighting, and if some parent isn't happy that their kid isn't doing well in Karate, they usually blame the Sensei's teaching style, and then threaten to pull their kid from the dojo. Obviously, they'll lose money for every student they lose, so the parent has a lot of leverage. This is when they compromise their integrity and become McDojos. Not to mention, they're also screwing the kid who's gonna get his ass dropped in real fight.


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"...perhaps it's different in the US. In germany though if you wanted to learn fencing it would probably be in a club, not a school.


I'm in Florida, and they're called fencing clubs as well... I've been thinking about trying it.


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