KMC Forums - Batman vs. A Sentinal

[QUOTE=6510012]Originally posted by TheKahn

This is what I'm having a problem with. How can you say that? If they have hit faster characters before, then how can you claim that Batman is, seemingly without a doubt, able to avoid their attacks.

Because surviving requires more than just speed. It requires cunningness and intelligence.

They are heavily armored weapon platforms that were designed to attack and kill beings with super powers. For example the link I posted earlier has a picture of an older Sentinel hitting Cannonball with liquid nitrogen and Cannonball is much faster then Batman. So I just can't see how it would be impossible for them to him Batman.

Cannonball, ah..this guy: (please log in to view the image)

He's not that impressive. Batman is better than that, you forget that Batman trains, just like the X-Men, with better training.

Also how a human being with no prior experience fighting them can somehow defeat them with only a few explosives?

Once he reads their specs, he'll know where to fire the explosives. And what mutant HASN'T taken down a sentinel?

All it has to do is fly 50 feet into the air and blast away at Batman until they hit him.

And what if Batman grapnels himself onto the foot and throws the concussion grenades to destroy it?

The Sentinel can easily fly out of Batman's range and take him out from a distance.

Really? Because the Sentinel would be farther away. The reason Sentinels get so close is because the X-Men, Avengers, and Spidey dodge their beams easily when they're far off in the sky.

What? All of the X-men are well beyond "Batman's level" as they have superpowers.

Well that's open to dispute, superpowers don't equate to greatness.

Now of course the number of casualties that the Sentinels inflict is limited (as nearly all villains are) because most companies are reluctant to kill off their characters. But a good look a the days of future past storylines or the recent 16 million mutant massacre on Genosha reveals just how formidable the Sentinels could be.

How many "skilled" people have they managed to kill?

Remember that Gambit would have to limit the energy he puts into his cards when fighting with fellow X-Men as the resultant explosion could hurt them as well as the Sentinel. That being said a concussive grenade couldn't even punch through a thin plate of metal much less reinforced armor as it isn't an explosive.

[b]The "concussion" part of the grenade is just a sound wave of about 170-180 decibels that is meant to stun a human being.

And it also is used for demolition.

As Sentinels have taken Banshee's scream before, I doubt this is a great danger.

Its not just a sound blast.

Now the Thermite Batman carries is explosive but given the impacts the Sentinel's armor has taken in the past, I highly doubt the few pounds (at most) Batman carries would be enough to damage it.

Look, I've read comics where Avenger members like Hawkeye can take them down with arrows, comics where Spidey webs their faces in and knocks them down with a dropkick, comics where even Beast can pull stuff of. They really aren't as great as you make them out to be.

And even if it was the Sentinel can easily fly into the air easily out of Batman's range.

I seriously doubt the Sentinel has a big enough conscience to realize, "I'm going to fly in the air," because they never do that against the countless fights I've seen them in. They're not that smart.