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Cloud vs Squall
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Mr.Biscuits
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Originally posted by Soren the Mage
Based on AC and Gameplay, Cloud mops it with Squall.

Well AC isn't a game so I don't know if it should be used in a game vs forum......erm

Based on Gameplay Squall would stomp cloud.Squall gets limit break very fast sometimes it doesn't even require yellow health to do it.Lionheart>>anything Cloud can do.


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characters that begin in a game are allowed...so AC counts


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characters that begin in a game are allowed...so AC counts

Well that's not fair at all.......erm


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yeah it is, lets compare AC to the opening movie, or any movie in the game for that matter. Cloud wins, he's faster and stronger, we'll even take squall's speed in account during his lionhart move, hm....nope cloud still wins. I'll even prove that with something they're both in, KH!
Cloud was placed in higher difficulty level tournament not to mention, cloud's Sonic Blade out speeds squall's Lionhart as well.


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Cloud's faster and stronger? How and when did we ever see this? Oh great the state-of-the-art movie compared to the dated FFVIII. Great. Last time I checked Squall moves faster than Cloud does when Cloud performs the Omnislash. Hell I can't even count all the times 9999 pops up. Then Cloud and Sephiroth both get whooped by Sora. Please don't use KH for this. Aerith's alive in the game, and it is not canon.


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Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Cloud's faster and stronger? How and when did we ever see this? Oh great the state-of-the-art movie compared to the dated FFVIII. Great. Last time I checked Squall moves faster than Cloud does when Cloud performs the Omnislash. Hell I can't even count all the times 9999 pops up. Then Cloud and Sephiroth both get whooped by Sora. Please don't use KH for this. Aerith's alive in the game, and it is not canon.
alright, but i've played both, dont' think AC should be brought into it and still think that cloud stomps the living crap out of squall. Cloud moves so fast during him omnislash, you can barely even notice the transition between moves, however squall does his little "i'm mr. hot and sexy" poses several time during the lionhart, bounces around like a slower yoda, and actually does LESS damage than Cloud does. I used KH though because it seemed like the easiest way to convert a noob since both character are actually in it. I do agree however that Aeris just didn't belong in that game, and neither her nor Yuffie should've been traveling with Squall (or Leon). That was Square's attempt to take a mediocre character and turn it into a much more popular one by mixing him with the widely familiar Aeris.


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I think if they made a ff8 movie equivelent of Advent Children, you'd see Squall doing similar stuff to Cloud. Nothing in ff7 showed Cloud being able to do stuff he did in the movie. But you cant have a movie with cloud and sephiroth standing apart from each other, slashing with numbers popping up. So they made them all fight all cool stylish super style. If they did ff8 advent children or whatever they would call it, you'd see Squall performing similar feats.


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ROFL. That reminds me of a cosplay movie based on FFVIII I found in youtube. Hilarious to say the least.

On topic don't get me wrong though; I believe neither Cloud nor Squall will have an easy time fighting each other.


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What the f**k? Squall's Lionheart does way more damage then Clouds Omnislash... roll eyes (sarcastic) Plus Squall does his rensoken(sp) before it which also does 9999 each hit.Also another edge Squall has that the Cloud fanboys keep ignoring is how fast Squall gets limit brake.


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Ponder this.

Lets compare game mechanics. Personally, I view them at an equal for this, but Ive heard a few people up here side with Squall on this one, so Ill go with this. When I say Game mechanics, Im talking about the sum of their attacks, weapons, armor, techniques, limits, etc, etc.

So we have.....

Squal game mechanics > Cloud game mechanics

Now, the problem is in AC, we see Cloud fighting with crazy amounts of power. But, in the movie towards the end, Tifa remarks that Cloud is fighting with the ferver that they all did before when fighting sephiroth. So if thats to be beleived, then the actions from the movie are ment to be representative of the game mechanics that they had at the end of the game. (just because they didnt have the technology to have the characters jump around like they do in AC, doesnt mean that Cloud and his enemies literally stood in one place while fighting)

So we have

Cloud game mechanics = Cloud Advent Children feats

and if THAT is true then....

Squall game mechanics > Cloud game mechanics = Cloud Advent Children feats

Which means Squall is the winner in the end.

Personally I think their game abilities are comparable, in which case it would be.

Squall game = Cloud game = Cloud Advent Children

And a draw


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Another thing you can consider is how Squall changes his Lionheart attack depending on the enemy.Such as when fighting the jumbo cactor you see Squall knocking this huge ass cactus who's hundreds of feet tall up in the air then jumping with him.


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Squal and Cloud both appeared in Kingdom Heart's 1 and 2, after beating 2 and getting past Sephiroth you see Cloud fight like he does in advent children, where'as Squall.....well he kill's some heartless. granted he is badass while doing it.

at the Time Squall was better than Cloud on the ps1 platform, Lionheart did do more damage than omnislash. but Cloud obviosly improved, Squall hasnt demonstrated real improvement yet.

old school Squall takes Cloud

current Cloud takes Squall, until otherwise demonstrated


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Kingdom hearts is not a reliable source to determine how strong the character is just read some of the ealier post.


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uh......? I dont see why?


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Well, it cant be really reliable because it has Mickey Mouse getting more kills than Squall.

And thats what we call Plot Induced Stupidity.

OOooooo I went there. Here come the Kingdom Hearts fans.


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Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Well, it cant be really reliable because it has Mickey Mouse getting more kills than Squall.

And thats what we call Plot Induced Stupidity.

OOooooo I went there. Here come the Kingdom Hearts fans.

I'm a KH fan and I agree...... laughing even though in the game keyblader's are more powerful then everyone else.


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*Shares Anti-KH shields with fellow soldiers.*


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Dan can take Mickey.............


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Originally posted by Superboy Prime
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Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Well, it cant be really reliable because it has Mickey Mouse getting more kills than Squall.

And thats what we call Plot Induced Stupidity.

OOooooo I went there. Here come the Kingdom Hearts fans.


Ok fine KH can be thrown out, but I do dare say that mickey being more important to the story in KH might be why he got more kill's.
but all three were present at the hallow bastion brawl, no way to tell how many each got...either way


but hey they both own Tidus big grin


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