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Phoenix2001
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It is simply not smart. A global gun ban would leave common innocent citizens defenseless. Governments have proven to be untrustworthy before in the past. To keep from being dominated by any government, citizens need all the means to protect themselves.


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History shows us that acceptable views today can change tomorrow, no need to get caught with your pants down so to speak. Heck Native Americans and the US govt showed us that as well as with Germany and Jewish folks. Anyway as I said the Global UN gun ban is retarded it gives away any and all control to 2 small a group of people.


Not really...the thing is the world is so divided.....how could they control us....they are not strong enough...and as for now it would be much better for the world if they do.

Also, it is a misconception that just because you have guns you are independent of your government..I understand US Americans want to feel safe...but that is just a psychological thing....


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It is simply not smart. A global gun ban would leave common innocent citizens defenseless. Governments have proven to be untrustworthy before in the past. To keep from being dominated by any government, citizens need all the means to protect themselves.



Yes indeed

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Not really...the thing is the world is so divided.....how could they control us....they are not strong enough...and as for now it would be much better for the world if they do.


You got that right. Germany and Japan tried that once. They weren't strong enough to succeed. But Germany atleast killed several million people alone while trying. So really... I don't think they should be in control or try to take control.


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You got that right. Germany and Japan tried that once. They weren't strong enough to succeed. But Germany atleast killed several million people alone while trying. So really... I don't think they should be in control or try to take control.


Yeah, but that was the military....not the people. And the people in Germany had weapons...they didn't use them....and who stopped them? Another military......not armed citizens.


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Yeah, but that was the military....not the people. And the people in Germany had weapons...they didn't use them....and who stopped them? Another military......not armed citizens.


Obviously if the citizens don't take any action nothing can be done.


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Obviously if the citizens don't take any action nothing can be done.


Or if citizens talke the wrong action.....


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Or if citizens talke the wrong action.....


Interesting point.


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Germany was stopped from using certain weapons because of past action if I recall right........I might be wrong..........but still.........the UN is global and shouldn't impose their sanctions on counties.............because issues change, people change, religions change..........NO ONE GOVERNING UNIT SHOULD BE IN CHARGE.

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Some balance is needed. Because of the little trust everyone has for each other, things must be taken drastically... but then again, that doesn't mean we have to.


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Thing is there is not trust becasue history shows us so.

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Or if citizens talke the wrong action.....


Gewehren töten nicht Leute, Leutetötungleute.


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Gewehren töten nicht Leute, Leutetötungleute.


Ja, aber Gewehere helfen.


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Ja, aber Gewehere helfen.


Tut so jedes mögliches andere Werkzeug.


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Originally posted by Aziz!
Tut so jedes mögliches andere Werkzeug.

Aber Feuerwaffen machen es wohl zu einfach.


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Das problum ist nicht die Gewehr, die es die Tatsache ist, daß Leute BEREIT sind, menschliches Leben zu dauern.


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Nun das stimmt schon, aber ich nehme an das wenn man weniger Feuerwaffen hätte man auch wniger Morde hätte...da sie komplizierter sein würden.Und das man Waffen aht hilft nicht gerade besonders die Rate kleinzuhalten.


Well, yes, that'S true but I think if we had less firearms we'd also have less murdes. That peopel have weaposn doens'T really help to keep a low crime rate.


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Wenn wir die Gewehren verbieten sollen, die basieren auf, wie genau es dann töten bildet, sollten wir an das gedacht haben, als wir zuerst entdeckten, wie man eine Verein verwendet, als alles jeder sonst nur ihre Fäuste benutzte.


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Wenn wir die Gewehren verbieten sollen, die basieren auf, wie genau es dann töten bildet, sollten wir an das gedacht haben, als wir zuerst entdeckten, wie man eine Verein verwendet, als alles jeder sonst nur ihre Fäuste benutzte.


Well maybe, but we didn't think about it back then, did we? Now we do. Now we have to take action. God, I talk like an anti-gun activist.....if they wouldn't have such good arguments...dammit.


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Eine Menge diese Morde sind die bezogene Droge. Ich denke, daß Drogegebrauch verlangsamend, dann Gewehrverboten helfen würde.

Wir werden nicht nichts zwar ändern. Entspannen Sie sich und haben Sie einen Koks.


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