I suggest you read my post where I changed the rules about weapons. And it's impossible to destroy a military base in less than 3 seconds unless you have a ****in hydrogen bomb. Even that, they have underground shelters.
As to weapons, Punisher is more SOPHISTICATED, fine-tuned, trained, and experienced than the GTA gangs will ever be.
That is enough to prove you wrong. Now it's about time you prove us wrong.
Doesn't matter what he does. It's HOW HE DOES IT. PROVE IT! Show me scans and screenshots comparing the two, and proving to me that they are equally as impressive.
Alright, lets invite some good debators from the CBVF in here, and see what they have to say. (When I say that, I mean people NOT from the syndicate*) *Except for Rewmac
The Punisher has fought just about every criminal organization in existence, as well as some fictional ones. He's battled the Italian Mafia, the Russian Mafia, the Japanese Yakuza, the Colombian and Mexican drug cartels, the Chinese Triads, Jamaican Yardies, the Irish Mob, biker gangs, street gangs, gunrunning militias, middle-eastern terrorists, religious fundamentalists of all types, muggers, killers, rapists, psychopaths, sadists, pedophiles, and sometimes even corrupt cops. The Punisher also assaults the businesses criminals thrive on from drug and weapon dealing to money laundering, human trafficking, etc. The Punisher has been fighting organized crime for long enough that he knows their modus operandi and can often predict their actions in advance. Of course, many of these criminal organizations have tried to kill the Punisher, using both their own men and hired contract killers. But the Punisher has survived and defeated (and, most often, killed) almost every assassin, hitman, bounty hunter, and mercenary sent after him.
^ Do you see that?
Here's more:
The Punisher possesses the normal human strength of a 6'1", 200-pound man who engages in regular physical exercise. Frank engages in a brutal regimen of calisthenics, katas and firing range practice daily, maintaining his combat skills. He does not smoke, nor does he consume any type of drugs.
The Punisher is a seasoned combat veteran of exceptional skills. A former U.S. Marine Captain with a distinguished combat record, Castle underwent sniper and recon training while in the Corps. He also received SEAL (Sea, Air, Land), UDT (Underwater Demolition Team), and LRRP (Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol) training.
Frank is well-versed in the arts of warfare and hand-to-hand combat, his styles of choice being Ninjutsu, Shorin-Ryu, Hwarangdo and Chin Na, as well as unarmed combat training received in the military. He is an exceptional knife fighter who carries up to 3 or 4 different types of edged weapons.
The Punisher's arsenal.Armed solely with conventional weapons and motivated by a fanatical hatred for criminals like those who murdered his family, the Punisher has single-handedly incapacitated up to a dozen well-armed and experienced opponents in a single encounter and escaped uninjured. It is his military training and his attention to detail that allows him to achieve this. The Punisher Armoury series illustrates some of his thinking and training.
Punisher deals with people better than these three worthless sh1theads in mass numbers every day
They last the amount of time it takes him to squeeze the trigger three times, Punisher wins 1000000000000000000000000000000000000/10
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Hey Janus, long time no see... very long time indeed...
but reunion suff later, now I want to say a little something.
Firstly, I am a very heavy GTA fan, but, even all 4 of the main characters from the games can't possibly win against the Punisher... The one possible advantage they would have had going by in game mechanics would have been Vehicle spamming, since this is a straight up shootout, Frank's far more accurate, better trained, and 5 times more lethal than all 3 put together...
Punisher's been in this game too long, and has taken on guys far tougher than Tommy, CJ and Tony (And the Mute from GTA 3... )
I honestly think that a monkey is incapable to copy and PASTE a link. Quit whining, Mary Poppins already disproved that.
So "grown-ups" in the real world don't research, they use the astounding databank of what they already know to solve problems? Don't think so
You're the one with the spelling errors
If anyone's embarrasing themselves, it's you.
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it depends on the context of the debate, it's admissable if we are going to estabish the characters themselves as they would be in a real world situation, in those cercumstances we can use them from whatever media they have appeared in.
Going purely from the way they are in the games, then no, outside canon is inadmissable.
Each scenario provides their own set of problems, for example: there is much more media published for the punisher to use, whereas all we have for GTA is the games, nothing else.
On the other hand, Game mechanics regularly have to tone down characters past what is otherwise well known canon abilities: Example, Juggernaught getting stopped by Cammy in X men vs Street Fighter....
You see, no matter how we debate online, someone's not going to be happy...
That's enough to prove he knows how to work in the net.
So HOW he does it? Shoots them down. WOW! Unbelievable!
Here we go again, I CAN'T give you screenshots of CJ that shows him killing soldiers because there are NO such screenshots(Oh no! You beat me! I don't have GTA comicbook! Can you believe it?!). But I do tell you all the facts from the game. He did took over military base by himself, and there is no point for me to lie here and everyone who played the game knows that I'm not.
No way! The whole Syndicate does not deserve to talk to such good debator like you
CJ battled Russian mafia and took them down, Mexican gangs, street gangs, soldiers of secret military base.. Tommy battled Italian mafia. They are dead too. Tonny battled Yakuza, triads.
Psychopaths, sadists and corrupt cops is an usual thing for GTA.
Sorry not impressed.
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Then it would be a fair match.
May 29th, 2006 01:55 PM
Now it's about time you prove us wrong.
Show me scans and screenshots comparing the two, and proving to me that they are equally as impressive. 
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