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They are essentially one and the same. A transitional form does not have to be a new species.

Take dogs. There is only one species of dog (C. domesticus). pit bull, greyhounds, shitzus are all the same species, but are so different they are referred to as breeds. In time, if they become so genetically different that a section becomes unable to breed with the new population, it will become new species.

The point with fossils is that they show general trends, trends like cephelization. These trends continue thorugh the fossil record, shoing that there is some mechanism at work. If that doesnt help, I am a bit confused on your question.


Nice try. Just like the bible says...God made everthing "after it's own kind" Dogs=different dogs Monkeys=different monkeys. But that's not the "Evolvement (Vertical Changes as told by Darwin.) There are (Horizontal changes built in by God where specias can adapt to thier environmments) such as skin pigmentation adaptation. But monkeys to man? laughing let's get real here please... laughing out loud Fish to birds? Whatever to whatever? Where's all the fossils Darwin?


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At the core of Intelligent Design, Molecular Biologists become acquainted with DNA. Defined loosely, DNA are blue prints (information) utilized within the cell for the task of manufacturing, much like blue prints are utilized by architects for the task of manufacturing structures- stadiums for example. Molecular Biologists are forced to ponder: Where did the information come from? When nuclear submarines were invented and all its housed super computers, mankind did not say, "Amazing! What a wonderful mistake!" Intelligence is required to manufacture such a machine. Such complexity is present in all organisms, even slugs and meal worms. The big question is, however, where did the information stored in DNA come from? To better understand the complexity of organisms, let us focus on the cell. Click the hyper link below, and enlighten yourself to the automated presentation surrounding protein synthesis. Thank you.

http://www.lewport.wnyric.org/JWANA...20-%20long.html
so why do 100% of scientists say it's dumb?


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Regret, I am a Bible believer in these debates on the Creation side (whatever that means) and I believe that science confirms the Bible.


I think it is good you have this view, as such you are not of the group I mentioned. There are many that do not hold this view though, and as such I feel their arguments often border on the ridiculous, if not way past that border laughing


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There is no reason to believe that the term "day" in the creation account refers to any period of time other than 24 hours. If the Bible is written by God for man, then it would reference the period of time that man recognizes as day.


A good point but even more powerful is the fact that the first mention of a word in scripture must be it's first literal meaning. It then can be re-construed later. But the first mention must be it's base meaning.


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The Omega,

I thought for a few days about collecting the DNA information and various other items to demonstrate to you the reality of a design and designer. I think God has stopped me dead in my tracks for several reasons: eek!

#1. You are a Physicist, surely you have access to all this information already.

#2. God has revealed Himself to you already by the things that He made. Read Romans Chapter 1.

#3. Like the unbelievers who will go through God's Wrath on earth in the future, the scriptures say that even they "did not repent" and change their ways.

So why would all this documentation and information that you already have access too stop you in any way from currently "suppressing the truth of God" that He is Planner and Designer of everthing you have already seen under your microscopes?
confused

PS: I'm sure your comeback will be, "There goes another one."


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The Omega,

I thought for a few days about collecting the DNA information and various other items to demonstrate to you the reality of a design and designer. I think God has stopped me dead in my tracks for several reasons: eek!

#1. You are a Physicist, surely you have access to all this information already.

#2. God has revealed Himself to you already by the things that He made. Read Romans Chapter 1.

#3. Like the unbelievers who will go through God's Wrath on earth in the future, the scriptures say that even they "did not repent" and change their ways.

So why would all this documentation and information that you already have access too stop you in any way from currently "suppressing the truth of God" that He is Planner and Designer of everthing you have already seen under your microscopes?
confused

PS: I'm sure your comeback will be, "There goes another one."


In other words, you cannot substantiate the claim you made. Vanish.


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In other words, you cannot substantiate the claim you made. Vanish.


Like I said to The Omega. God has shown Himself by the things that He has made. Do you believe?


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Like I said to The Omega. God has shown Himself by the things that He has made. Do you believe?


I believe that you cannot substantiate the claim you made, so vanish.


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I believe that you cannot substantiate the claim you made, so vanish.


Again Adam_PoE,...it's not my claim...it's what the bible says. So you need to make the bible vanish...Good luck sir. cool


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The Vatican promotes science and has stated that evolution should be taught.


Really? It wasn't until 1992 that the Pope recalled the ban on Galileo Galilei thereby accepting - finally - that the Earth orbits the Sun.

JustbyFaith> The proof is not there? That's what I thought. Go away, you bore me, Whob.


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JustbyFaith> The proof is not there? That's what I thought. Go away, you bore me, Whob. [/B]



Huh, always learning yet never knowing...


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Huh, always learning yet never knowing...



Justbyfaith, never let anyone call you whob. Unless you are whob. laughing


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Justbyfaith, never let anyone call you whob. Unless you are whob. laughing


The scary thing is... since I don't know what a whob is... I could be one laughing Happy Dance Sure would hate to say don't call me a whob if it's something good. Ha! Ha! Ha! laughing out loud And if it's something bad I wouldn't know anyway... big grin


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The scary thing is... since I don't know what a whob is... I could be one laughing Happy Dance Sure would hate to say don't call me a whob if it's something good. Ha! Ha! Ha! laughing out loud And if it's something bad I wouldn't know anyway... big grin
Whob was a member here at the forum. He was a very hateful person.


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Whob was a member here at the forum. He was a very hateful person.


Huh, well hopefully I don't appear hateful? That would certainly not be my intent for spending time here.


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Huh, well hopefully I don't appear hateful? That would certainly not be my intent for spending time here.


I know, but people are going a little bit crazy, because they think that whob has come back as a sock. See how evil can spread. Whob's evil karma is still here in this forum.


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I know, but people are going a little bit crazy, because they think that whob has come back as a sock. See how evil can spread. Whob's evil karma is still here in this forum.


Karma as "What comes around goes around" or "We reap what we sow?"


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Justbyfaith, never let anyone call you whob. Unless you are whob. laughing
laughing out loud

And whobs are like everywhere lately...... confused

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laughing out loud

And whobs are like everywhere lately...... confused


Only the Mods know the truth and the truth has set them free from whobs...


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Again Adam_PoE,...it's not my claim...it's what the bible says. So you need to make the bible vanish...Good luck sir. cool


Not your claim, indeed:

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Maybe cool Ta...Ta for now. Be seated when we discuss the discovery of the D.N.A. and it's unrefuted proof. Be seated and ready on this....better get your guns loaded....


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I will be back in time to challenge your worldy discoveries Doctor Omega. big grin


Put up or shut up.


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