damn sta-raight..kain wins..his TK pwns dante..i really wish they hurry up with the new game...im pretty sure there is one..
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from the dark chronical..its not the exact words, but its pretty close...
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Last edited by MadMel on Jun 16th, 2006 at 12:42 PM
if Kain really wants to make it look like a fight he would throw dante around a bit with TK, then he would throw all his weapons away from him before slashing dante in half
if he couldnt be bothered with a fight he would end it quick with TK chains to hold Dante in place, lazily walk up to him and chop his head off
come to think of it, kain could do this bare handed
Last edited by Burning thought on Jul 25th, 2006 at 08:52 AM
if dante can have one of each item, he can use a holy water (which Kain would be weak against) and use that moment of weakness to defeat him. it would definately be close, but Dante would win. he did defeat the Devil, which does happen to be a higher ranking demon than a vampire lord
And how exactly is Dante going to defeat him? Holy water wouldn't have any serious effect on Kain, he'll simply reform. Then he will paralize Dante and cut his head. Kain defeated Elder God that happen to be higher ranking than the devil and again, Kain is immortal, there is nothing Dante could do.
first of all Dante didnt defeat the devil, he defeated Mundus, an invented demon emperor who is nothing like the devil, he is basically a demonic three eyes mass of hands inside a statue, hes nothing compared to the devil and ranking means nothing in a duel one on one, an army general is not higher ranking than the president but if he had a machine gun he would win over president easily so thats an example
Also holy water wouldnt be enough, it would destroy kains material form only for him to reform again and kill dante easily, dante would not be able to use anything anyway, how can he use any of his weapons or holy water when his traped in a telekentic chains so he cannot move, then Kain simply kill him easily, simple, this has already been debated really, Kain wins
yep and dante is immortal too either that or he just never dies from stuff that should cut his body in halves. and he can just slow time, cut him into pieces and sine he has all of his abilities super charge his guns and decimate the body chunks that were left over
Dante is faster, Kain is relatively slow in Blood Omen, Blood Omen 2 and in Defiance. He's not as fast as Dante (especially in demon form) and nowhere near as fast as Vampires from other fiction.
Kain's telekenisis is good, but boss-tier characters can resist it. He also runs out of TK and cannot move while holding someone in place. He cannot hold Dante in the air and cut him in half.
Kain has never removed someone's weapons with tk before. He has never demonstrated that kind of mastery over telekenisis.
Kain isn't indestructable. He's immortal, which means he's ageless, however he can be killed. In Soul Reaver 2, Kain would have died if Raziel stabbed him in the neck. Dante's taken much tougher blows.
Kain's teleportation requires casting time. More than a second.
Kain's supposed "i cant die"ness comes from his destiny as the Scion of Balance. Destiny is discounted as usual. Dante can cut off his head and Kain can't expect to live.
Bullets. In Blood Omen 2, it only takes maybe 7 or 8 arrows to the chest to make Kain turn to dust. In Defiance, it's around 30. Dante's handguns unleash an incredible barrage of bullets in an insanely quick time. Bullets from bigass handguns are much more damaging than bolts and arrows. Dante can unleash 30 bullets unto Kain in seconds.
If all goes to worse, Dante can instantly freeze time with quicksilver and own the hell out of Kain. Even if Kain cant die, he can still get his ass handed to him. A knock-out counts as a win.
Last edited by Generic Hero on Aug 9th, 2006 at 06:05 AM
1. Kain moves at mist speed, its not displayed while you play apart from when you dodge because if it were you wouldnt be able to control someone moving so fast, also WTF, dante is that fast....bascially as fast as an Athlete human at his max in DMC 1and 2 wheras Kain and Dante both show increased speed in cinematics
also Kains telekenieses is based around game mechanic, in the game he controls and moves boss characters many times, its based around size, if their larger than about 8-9ft he cant throw them around, just knock them to the floor
also try playing defiance again, chapter 3 while in moebious stronghold he throws moebious weapon away.......he doesnt do it while you play however which is a shame, but many things in LOK games hapen in cinematics such as teleportation, TK on weapons and other things so that its not completly worthless to even try the game for a challenge, even thogh it still is a bit easy, also he can move while usin TK, play defiance until you get the last TK spell, its TK chains, you bind your enemy in the air, and you can do what you like with it really
False, Kain is immortal true, but he says so in game that Raziel is the only one who can kill him prophecy or no prophecy, the prophecy only makes Kain completly indestructable to all including Raziel, also at what part in Defiance does he ever die, when he loses all his life in-game he just becomes mist bats and forms again
true, it takes around a second or less to teleport, whats your point, by the time Dante even notices or can get to him, Kain will be gone.....dante doesnt move at light speed ime afraid
ok where shall i begin....all this arrow crap and boss crap is game mechanics, or lets bring up Dante must die mode, most monsters can pwn dante in a few hits in that, and even weak ones too, or maybe heaven and hell mode, one hit, wow dante is very tough, or dont game mechanics suddenly dont excist any more , also dont count out arrows completly, although better technology to fight humans, how many vampires in fiction do you see damaged by them, they move through them like nothing, you have to realise that an Arrow, especially burning ones in LOK games are one of the very few weapons effectve against a vampire, especially of Kain calibre, besides he wont have a chance to use his guns
also quicksilver has a limit, Kains invincibility doesnt........now please play the LOK games all the way through a few times before making up a load of stuff about him
also its no around 30 arrows, from just playing the game it took 74 burning arrows, plus the fact he loses life dew to not feeding and this is when he has the smallest life bar, with a full life bar he can possibly take up to 200 or more arrows and thats if hes just standing still, i doubt think your little guns are much use here