Why should speed have anything to do with it. If someone is able to propel themselves with sufficient force to escape its gravity, it doesnt matter if they're going 2 mph they would still escape it.
As far as I know, Doomsday's ability to "evolve" is not based on magic but on physics (comic-level, 'natch). Which means that on some level this cornerstone of DD's power can be neutralized via physical forces, and if his very power to evolve is neutralized, then he can no longer "come back." He is beaten, once and for all.
Given Surfer's versatility, he should be able to attack this cornerstone (so should a few other characters, for that matter, eg, Thor).
Analogy: you keep wanting to destroy the Evil Light Bulb by breaking it, but hell, a force external to the Bulb (a person) keeps replacing the Bulb with a light that has stronger, more durable glass.
Key to success: kill the Bulb-changer.
Of course, again, if DC's intention is to make Doomsday--by definition--unbeatable, then this whole point--indeed, verily this thread--is worth naught.
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That's a great and unique twist. Problem is trying to use cosmic energy at herald level would just cause SS feedback and hurt SS. Energy attacks below Imperiex/Galactus level don't even begin to faze this guy.
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Can you prove SS could do something to DD?
Have you seen DD brought down by Energy blasts outside of imperiex?
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IMO, the above responses miss the point. To say that "energy attacks below Galactus/Imperiex level" won't work imply that attacks against Doomsday have to be "bigger" than what the Surfer can deliver. But "bigger" isn't always better, especially if one is still attacking the "end result" of DD's evolving power, rather than the power itself.
I might even agree that there could be "feedback" against a molecular attack, because That is still attacking DD's Existence, not his Essence, so to speak.
Again, this all hinges on how one "defines" Doomsday, but that aside, the Surfer has to attack "better/smarter/more sophisticated" which means using laws of physics we literally have no idea of, and so are unable to comment on. It's like the catch-22 in writing a story about a character who is more intelligent than the writer: how would the writer really show that? Yes, you can say "So-n-so invented this Thiggamibob and saved the day," implying greater intelligence, but--by definition--a writer can't demonstrate the actual reasoning process of a more intelligent individual.
If nothing else, DD's power raises interesting philosophical issues, like the Immovable Object meeting Irrisistible Force.
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i'd like to see how silver surfer would fair against the justice league..
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Means nothing. You claim Surfer can do all of the above while fighting much faster than light as well as go back in time in a battle to defeat his enemy...yet he is defeated by punches.
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Energy punches...but you claim SS can absorb all energy, so why didnt he absorb at light speed, or go back in time and beat him? Why didn't he blow up the planet? Dodge him at 300x the speed of light? Turn the air around him into adamantium? etc etc?
Also, last I remember, DD and Hulk are 2 totally separate characters. Very bad analogy. Their only similarity is that they are big, strong beasts.
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