carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
So, do people not understand that the "no Superman in VS threads" thing is still in effect? Or what?
Carver, you'll only get away with ignoring and/or reinterpreting the rules so much, you know.
I didnt even go against the rules though. I didnt mention him first.
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Jul 5th, 2019 02:53 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman during this era was capable of moving within nanoseconds within a timestop:.
https://m.imgur.com/a/1c8pTn8
In college, was capable of moving with microseconds (so when he was weaker):
https://m.imgur.com/IyR6L1C
Was capable of blitzing energy beings:
https://m.imgur.com/a/V3ANlZs
Perceives time on a nanosecond level:
https://m.imgur.com/a/q6wrVoI
Etc etc. And still, THIS Superman, was complaining about Doomsday's speed:
https://m.imgur.com/a/FNuvOtn
And here:
https://m.imgur.com/a/2SxQdkQ
And again, this is a vastly weakened Doomsday we're talking about, relative to his usual levels.
'Beating up Superman' is a way to low-ball it. He physically beat him to death, and no one has ever done it before or since.
And he SPECIFICALLY commented on his speed. So yeah, it's totally a feat.
You say it's hyperbolic....but it's backed up by a rather impressive feat.
Edit: just saw Pr's post. Won't do it again.
Superman can not be used here per the rules. With that said, what speed fts does Doomsday have? I had a counter for your post but Pr joined in. What do you have?
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Jul 5th, 2019 02:54 PM
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I was talking about Booster and Flash.
Then suddenly you mentioned Superman, lol
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Jul 5th, 2019 02:54 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Superman can not be used here per the rules. With that said, what speed fts does Doomsday have? I had a counter for your post but Pr joined in. What do you have?
Booster Gold, who doesn't actually exist (and thus, is saying words given to him by a comic book writer) saying that he's faster than Flash.
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Jul 5th, 2019 02:55 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Booster Gold, who doesn't actually exist (and thus, is saying words given to him by a comic book writer) saying that he's faster than Flash.
What fts do you have? Reed Richards said Hulk is as powerful as the Phoenix Force.
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Jul 5th, 2019 02:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
What fts do you have? Reed Richards said Hulk is as powerful as the Phoenix Force.
Never said that.
He said he was in the same category. Doesn't make them equal.
Mike Tyson has human level strength, same as me. Usain Bolt has human level speed.
Doesn't mean I am as fast or as strong as those two. Try again.
Hulk is also not in this thread.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:01 PM
Stoic
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not sure how cosmic awareness helps with reaction speeds?
When the match starts, they both start on the ground.
You do recall how fast Flash can move right? Hmmmmm.
In another thread you argued as if righteous justice were on your side concerning the idea of not using another character's top power stunts, or feats as proof to show that the character being argued for (i.e Doomsday in this case) could duplicate it without actually showing that they can. The particular Flash in question is far faster than Superman. So to debunk your repeated claims especially in a full capacity setting, Superman shouldn't ever be able to go punch for punch with a guy faster than the guy who can run rings around himself (i.e the Flash).
I asked you a specific question, and you're wrong the Surfer in this case has his board, it's a part of him, therefore he begins standing on his board. Or, should Captain America begin battles with his shield on the ground, Hal Jordan with his ring in his pocket, Wonder Woman with her lasso on Themiscira, Batman with his Utility Belt in the Batmobile, should I continue? I can you know.
I asked a specific question concerning the Surfer's ability to move over a light year in a second for a reason. I'll ask again. How far did he travel in one second, if he travelled over a light year in a second? Space isn't empty right? That means he'd have to react pretty fast in order to dodge debris at those speeds, especially with Adam Warlock in tow. But you've clearly become biased over the years. You aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
Anyway, keep on pushing, just know that the Surfer has full knowledge of Doomsday, and doesn't have to allow the clear as day advantages that he has over him to slip into the realms of liquid PIS.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:02 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Never said that.
He said he was in the same category. Doesn't make them equal.
Mike Tyson has human level strength, same as me. Usain Bolt has human level speed.
Doesn't mean I am as fast or as strong as those two. Try again.
Hulk is also not in this thread.
So you agree with Hulk being in the same category as the Phoenix Force?
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:05 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
In another thread you argued as if righteous justice were on your side concerning the idea of not using another character's top power stunts, or feats as proof to show that the character being argued for (i.e Doomsday in this case) could duplicate it without actually showing that they can. The particular Flash in question is far faster than Superman. So to debunk your repeated claims especially in a full capacity setting, Superman shouldn't ever be able to go punch for punch with a guy faster than the guy who can run rings around himself (i.e the Flash).
I asked you a specific question, and you're wrong the Surfer in this case has his board, it's a part of him, therefore he begins standing on his board. Or, should Captain America begin battles with his shield on the ground, Hal Jordan with his ring in his pocket, Wonder Woman with her lasso on Themiscira, Batman with his Utility Belt in the Batmobile, should I continue? I can you know.
I asked a specific question concerning the Surfer's ability to move over a light year in a second for a reason. I'll ask again. How far did he travel in one second, if he travelled over a light year in a second? Space isn't empty right? That means he'd have to react pretty fast in order to dodge debris at those speeds, especially with Adam Warlock in tow. But you've clearly become biased over the years. You aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
Anyway, keep on pushing, just know that the Surfer has full knowledge of Doomsday, and doesn't have to allow the clear as day advantages that he has over him to slip into the realms of liquid PIS.
Amazing post. You beat me to the punch. Darksaint entire argument always contradict itself. He only does this for team DC. Its borderline sad.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
In another thread you argued as if righteous justice were on your side concerning the idea of not using another character's top power stunts, or feats as proof to show that the character being argued for (i.e Doomsday in this case) could duplicate it without actually showing that they can. The particular Flash in question is far faster than Superman. So to debunk your repeated claims especially in a full capacity setting, Superman shouldn't ever be able to go punch for punch with a guy faster than the guy who can run rings around Superman (i.e the Flash).
I asked you a specific question, and you're wrong the Surfer in this case has his board, it's a part of him, therefore he begins standing on his board. Or, should Captain America begin battles with his shield on the ground, Hal Jordan with his ring in his pocket, Wonder Woman with her lasso on Themiscira, Batman with his Utility Belt in the Batmobile, should I continue? I can you know.
I asked a specific question concerning the Surfer's ability to move over a light year in a second for a reason. I'll ask again. How far did he travel in one second, if he travelled over a light year in a second? Space isn't empty right? That means he'd have to react pretty fast in order to dodge debris at those speeds, especially with Adam Warlock in tow. But you've clearly become biased over the years. You aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
Anyway, keep on pushing, just know that the Surfer has full knowledge of Doomsday, and doesn't have to allow the clear as day advantages that he has over him to slip into the realms of liquid PIS.
Actually, in this thread they're specifically commenting on Doomsday's speed as the factor.
It's like Human Torch commenting on someone being hot. When he does that, you KNOW it's hot.
What the hell are you on about now with Cap on the ground etc?
Forum rules:
quote: Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not.
Oh I will address your flight speed q in a mo.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:08 PM
carver9
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Got a question for you Saint. Do you think Doomsday could pull this off if he attempted to do it? The same thing Flash did here, do you think Doomsday could replicate it?
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:10 PM
Stoic
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Doomsday isn't as fast as the Flash. And and you asked what I'm on about? Re-read what I wrote. It'll make sense. Just focus. And the Surfer's Board is an innate power like strength, or speed. I repeat, it is part of him, even moreso than a Power Ring is to a Lantern.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:12 PM
Stoic
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Got a question for you Saint. Do you think Doomsday could pull this off ic he attempted to do it? The same thing Flash did here, do you think Doomsday could replicate it?
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Of course he can't do that.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:16 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Amazing post. You beat me to the punch. Darksaint entire argument always contradict itself. He only does this for team DC. Its borderline sad.
And now for BOTH of you.
Superman is not allowed? Damn.
Here's Guy Gardner, SPECIFICALLY saying that a weaker version of Doomsday is too fast for him to see:
https://s1180.photobucket.com/user/...speed2.jpg.html
Yeah but who the phuck is Guy?
He's the guy who can casually chase ships in warp speed (note the stars in the background):
https://m.imgur.com/o3ibcGv
And can travel several light-years in a few hours (at least).
https://m.imgur.com/XIbukjn
Why did DS85 say several light years? Because you haven't read the comic properly. They're a light year from the nearest inhabited planet, but they started out from Earth.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:18 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Doomsday isn't as fast as the Flash. And and you asked what I'm on about? Re-read what I wrote. It'll make sense. Just focus. And the Surfer's Board is an innate power like strength, or speed. I repeat, it is part of him, even moreso than a Power Ring is to a Lantern.
True, he's faster
So your contention is that....what, he subconsciously always flies?
Because as soon as it's a conscious decision, to fly, then forum rules state he can't do it without prep
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:19 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Got a question for you Saint. Do you think Doomsday could pull this off if he attempted to do it? The same thing Flash did here, do you think Doomsday could replicate it?
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No.
Because he doesn't have the Speed Force giving him the energy to do it for everyone. Over short distances, yes, he could.
Your argument is as stupid as asking if Usain Bolt can run a marathon at the same speed.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:21 PM
Stoic
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And we have writers specifically saying that the Sentry had the power of a million stars. It's called hyperbole. We actually see the Surfer when he pushes the speed limit. We actually see the Flash when he pushes the speed limit. We see Doomsday's speed as well, when it comes to running down cars and trucks, and he's plenty fast, but over a light year in a second? Hell No.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Got a question for you Saint. Do you think Doomsday could pull this off if he attempted to do it? The same thing Flash did here, do you think Doomsday could replicate it?
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Yes, Doomsday can if we talk about raw speed
This just near-light-speed, And whether Darkseid or Superman both have same or more impressive feats
And I still can't understand why you're arguing Doomsday speed isn't in the same category of Flash when he already beat he in Doomsday Wars
Darkseid could act in nanoseconds, But still couldn't acting to Doomsday attacks
https://i.imgur.com/witmVPg.png
Jul 5th, 2019 03:24 PM
Stoic
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No.
Because he doesn't have the Speed Force giving him the energy to do it for everyone. Over short distances, yes, he could.
Your argument is as stupid as asking if Usain Bolt can run a marathon at the same speed.
It isn't stupid, it's perfectly valid.
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Jul 5th, 2019 03:25 PM
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Wally still had mental blocks on when Doomsday was supposedly faster
Jul 5th, 2019 03:25 PM
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