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Stoic
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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yes, Doomsday can if we talk about raw speed

This just near-light-speed, And whether Darkseid or Superman both have same or more impressive feats

And I still can't understand why you're arguing Doomsday speed isn't in the same category of Flash when he already beat he in Doomsday Wars

Darkseid could act in nanoseconds, But still couldn't acting to Doomsday attacks
https://i.imgur.com/witmVPg.png

Near light speed? How many times faster than the speed of light was the Surfer moving if he moved over a light year in a second? You can't even begin to compare the two. And Darkseid was stunned that his ultimate final attack failed. He was pretty much caught unaware, and, according to Squall, that was retconned away to be an avatar of Darkseid.

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Originally posted by Stoic
Near light speed? How many times faster than the speed of light was the Surfer moving if he moved over a light year in a second? You can't even begin to compare the two.

Carver was using this scan and asking could Doomsday replicate it. And this scan Flahs was near-light-speed, I never mentioned surfer

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Originally posted by Stoic
It isn't stupid, it's perfectly valid.

Over short distances, Usain Bolt is faster than Haile Gebreselassie.

That doesn't mean Bolt can run a marathon faster than Haile, does it?

Doomsday doesn't have the endurance to maintain those speeds, we know his reserves can be depleted. So asking if he can replicate that feat over those distances, for the same amount of people, is a no.

But over a short distance, yes, he can reach those speeds.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And now for BOTH of you.

Superman is not allowed? Damn.

Here's Guy Gardner, SPECIFICALLY saying that a weaker version of Doomsday is too fast for him to see:
https://s1180.photobucket.com/user/...speed2.jpg.html

Yeah but who the phuck is Guy?

He's the guy who can casually chase ships in warp speed (note the stars in the background):
https://m.imgur.com/o3ibcGv

And can travel several light-years in a few hours (at least).
https://m.imgur.com/XIbukjn

Why did DS85 say several light years? Because you haven't read the comic properly. They're a light year from the nearest inhabited planet, but they started out from Earth.

You are better than this Saint. Thor has flown FTL on many of occasions and admitted Wolverine was too fast for him.

And you using Lanterns as an argument is hilarious. Deathstroke easily caught a punch from one of the best Lanterns and then almost took his ring from him...

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Sigh...

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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Wally still had mental blocks on when Doomsday was supposedly faster

Booster is from the future

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Originally posted by carver9
You are better than this Saint. Thor has flown FTL on many of occasions and admitted Wolverine was too fast for him.

And you using Lanterns as an argument is hilarious. Deathstroke easily caught a punch from one of the best Lanterns and then almost took his ring from him...

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Sigh...

Ahhhh so you're not using full capacity any longer, and now using low-ballling.

Didn't take you long to flip flop, lol.

Surfer gets Mexican'd.

I SPECIFICALLY used Guy's flight, because Stoic was using Surfer's flight.

And weren't you using Blue Marvel's flight speed a week or so ago? laughing out loud

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Carver was using this scan and asking could Doomsday replicate it. And this scan Flahs was near-light-speed, I never mentioned surfer

Provide scans showing Doomsday could do that.

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Originally posted by carver9
Provide scans showing Doomsday could do that.

I already posted Darkseid's reaction speed. Doomsday was beat Darkseid even before he could react. So Doomsday could replicate it
If you think my logic is wrong, Then prove it

Jul 5th, 2019 03:33 PM

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No.

Because he doesn't have the Speed Force giving him the energy to do it for everyone. Over short distances, yes, he could.

Your argument is as stupid as asking if Usain Bolt can run a marathon at the same speed.

It doesnt have to be people. Let's just say the people that Wally carried, they are now made out of adamantium. Doomsday have to grab these adamantium bodies and carry it to its destination just like Wally did. Can he do it?

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Over short distances, Usain Bolt is faster than Haile Gebreselassie.

That doesn't mean Bolt can run a marathon faster than Haile, does it?

Doomsday doesn't have the endurance to maintain those speeds, we know his reserves can be depleted. So asking if he can replicate that feat over those distances, for the same amount of people, is a no.

But over a short distance, yes, he can reach those speeds.

And at full capacity, the Surfer has cosmic awareness. He can sense the slightest of movements. Think suped up spider sense. Or, check out Captain Mar-Vell.

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I already posted Darkseid's reaction speed. Doomsday was beat Darkseid even before he could react. So Doomsday could replicate it
If you think my logic is wrong, Then prove it

He did react. Remember, he blasted Doomsday with the Omegas. Now again, prove that he can do what I posted.

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Originally posted by carver9
I didnt even go against the rules though. I didnt mention him first.

You're contradicting yourself.

Nobody should be doing it, but you're the one doing it and then lying about the actual scans you're posting.

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Also, JFC @ this thread.

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Originally posted by carver9
It doesnt have to be people. Let's just say the people that Wally carried, they are now made out of adamantium. Doomsday have to grab these adamantium bodies and carry it to its destination just like Wally did. Can he do it?

Over 35 miles? No.

Because he doesn't have the speed Force backing him up.

Over shorter distances? Yes. As he is faster than Flash.

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Also, Darkseid isnt light speed. Just stop.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Over 35 miles? No.

Because he doesn't have the speed Force backing him up.

Over shorter distances? Yes. As he is faster than Flash.

Flash IS the speed force. So he isnt as fast as the Flash?

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Jul 5th, 2019 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by Stoic
And at full capacity, the Surfer has cosmic awareness. He can sense the slightest of movements. Think suped up spider sense. Or, check out Captain Mar-Vell.

By the time he registers it...

I mean, you can tell me right now that someone has a sniper rifle trained on me. I can hear the crack of the rifle as it fires.

Hell, I might even be able to see the muzzle flash.

Doesn't mean I'm dodging a sniper bullet.

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Originally posted by carver9
Flash IS the speed force. So he isnt as fast as the Flash?

Endurance. A sprinter is faster than a marathon runner over shorter distances. A marathon runner is faster than a sprinter over long distances.

Why is this so hard to understand? Have you never run before?

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Originally posted by -Pr-
You're contradicting yourself.

Nobody should be doing it, but you're the one doing it and then lying about the actual scans you're posting.

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Also, JFC @ this thread.

Lol.

I want it stated on record I am ONLY going down this path, because Surfer is now hurling black holes and sensing the universe and draining solar energy whilst moving at 100x the speed of light, btw.

Despite a mod (Galan) stepping in and asking Carver to stop

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Endurance. A sprinter is faster than a marathon runner over shorter distances. A marathon runner is faster than a sprinter over long distances.

Why is this so hard to understand? Have you never run before?

What showings does Doomsday have that shows endurance would be the deciding factor of him NOT being able to achieve said ft?

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Originally posted by carver9
What showings does Doomsday have that shows endurance would be the deciding factor of him NOT being able to achieve said ft?

Being depleted in the fight against he who must not be named.

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