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Could Sion have possibly replicated Sidious' Force Storm?
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Blax XXX
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Intelligence? Where does it say that? I read 'intelligent control', not 'intelligence' and 'control'. And having a strong will and good control go hand in hand.

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Intelligence? Where does it say that? I read 'intelligent control', not 'intelligence' and 'control'. And having a strong will and good control go hand in hand.

No, not necessarily.

One could argue that Anakin had a powerful "will". But poor control.

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Anakin had a strong will? Since when?

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Escape, you're okay, but you have to agree Anakin fell to the darkside faster than a fat man with a rocket attached to him being shot down a hundred story building.

Strong will my ass.

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Escape, you're okay, but you have to agree Anakin fell to the darkside faster than a fat man with a rocket attached to him being shot down a hundred story building.

Strong will my ass.

Uh,ya' think it was because he was trying to save Padme,and thought he needed Palpatine to do it?He has a strong will,but in his case with Padme,she's his WEAKNESS(and also his strengh and inspiration).

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I agree with Escape and DE Luke

Anakin definately had a strong will, but like all heroes had an achilles heel. Padme. threaten her and viola, you have control of anakin.

Of course threaten her the wrong way and your deader than the dodo bird before you know it.

Preferably keep her in between Bandit Boy and yourself

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i think he may be able to replicate it to a degree if he had the knowlege and practiced, but he couldnt replicate the power and scale of sidious.

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i think he may be able to replicate it to a degree if he had the knowlege and practiced, but he couldnt replicate the power and scale of sidious.

Why though? The Book of Anger makes it clear that not force mastery, but anger and willpower effect how devastating the force storm is. Sion probably had the strongest willpower in the whole history of SW, and his anger seemed to trump Sidious' imo.

Jul 15th, 2006 12:46 PM

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Dude, the thing is: Anger and willpower ARE the Dark Side...you need power to create a force storm, that goes without saying. From the Book of Anger:
"Using this knowledge, I can unleash the dark side energies that are all around us, even to shatter the fabric of space itself. In this way, I have created storms."

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The thing that I'm trying to say is that strength in the force doesn't seem to be a factor whatsoever.

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Which is unfortunately blatantly false as the force Storm is said to be possibly the strongest force technique

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But the Book of Anger clearly states every requirement, and strength in the force is not one of them....

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I really don't get the point of this debate. Sion was never shown using Force Storm, and therefore assumed that he cannot perform it. That's just how these things work.

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keep in mind that in the game and the movies/books the force is a very different thing. No one in any book i've read has been able to use force crush, but the dark exile could. It's the same thing with force storm. Both Revan and the exile could harness a force storm, but it took years of work and study by the greatest sith lord the galaxy had ever seen to learn this power. Its like comparing apples and oranges

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keep in mind that in the game and the movies/books the force is a very different thing. No one in any book i've read has been able to use force crush, but the dark exile could. It's the same thing with force storm. Both Revan and the exile could harness a force storm, but it took years of work and study by the greatest sith lord the galaxy had ever seen to learn this power. Its like comparing apples and oranges

Sidious's Force Storm is different than Revan's...

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keep in mind that in the game and the movies/books the force is a very different thing. No one in any book i've read has been able to use force crush, but the dark exile could. It's the same thing with force storm. Both Revan and the exile could harness a force storm, but it took years of work and study by the greatest sith lord the galaxy had ever seen to learn this power. Its like comparing apples and oranges

Peter, let's set this all straight..: Revan's Force Storm is him harnessing Force Lightning and lifting his hand(s) upwards and shooting out the energy within a specific range. Palpatine's Force Storm is him harnessing his anger, will, and power and tearing asunder the fabrics of reality and creating "storms" which can tear apart entire fleets.

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Palpatine's Force Storm is him harnessing his anger, will, and power and tearing asunder the fabrics of reality and creating "storms" which can tear apart entire fleets.

WRONG!!!
No harnessing of power involved. Just will and anger.

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I really don't get the point of this debate. Sion was never shown using Force Storm, and therefore assumed that he cannot perform it. That's just how these things work.

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